Drayton? in Middlesex?

[findem]

OK Doug here is the reply you posted today 23 Jan 2018 on the other topic, I agree with you it would be best to discuss the Hill family in this topic, thanks for giving my memory a jog.

“We should be correct in assuming the parents of John Hastings b.1758 were William and Mary whose death was recorded in the Little Marlow Parish Register in 1791 and 1796 (from the information earlier in this thread). They may or may not be from Cookham originally but by the process of elimination they most likely are.

As you pointed out, just going by the process of elimination, the best candidate for his grandfather is William Hastings baptized 1727 in Hagbourne  - Father William, Mother Elizabeth.

There is one more candidate in William Hastings baptized 1728 in Hagbourne - Father John, Mother Mary.
This John and Mary had at least 8 children in Hagbourne between 1727 and 1739.

William and Elizabeth Hastings may be far more interesting as they had just 2 born in Hagbourne. William Hastings b. 1726 and William Hastings b. 1727. The one born in 1726 likely died. Then they disappear but a couple of years later a William and Francis Hastings appear in Cookham and have at least 3 children between 1731 and 1736. 

Possible scenario where William's first wife Elizabeth passes away after the birth of William b. 1727. He then meets and marries Frances in Cookham bring along his son William b. 1727 which gives a nice explanation as to how William came to live in Cookham and marry Mary and have a son - our John b. 1758.

Sounds good but how to prove lol.“   

[DougTCanada]

You may want to scroll back a couple of pages Findem as we have been discussing this Caroline and Daniel and Charlotte for a couple of days here. Basically, I have been making the case for Charlotte's maiden name being Webb.

[findem]

In answer to your comments:

You stated: “We should be correct in assuming the parents of John Hastings b.1758 were William and Mary whose death was recorded in the Little Marlow Parish Register in 1791 and 1796 (from the information earlier in this thread). They may or may not be from Cookham originally but by the process of elimination they most likely are.

As you pointed out, just going by the process of elimination, the best candidate for his grandfather is William Hastings baptized 1727 in Hagbourne  - Father William, Mother Elizabeth."

I agree with you on that, at the moment my Family Group Sheets for William and Mary and William and Elizabeth have at the top of the page in red print "Possible ancestors" plus an explanatory note.


You: William and Elizabeth Hastings may be far more interesting as they had just 2 born in Hagbourne. William Hastings b. 1726 and William Hastings b. 1727. The one born in 1726 likely died. Then they disappear but a couple of years later a William and Francis Hastings appear in Cookham and have at least 3 children between 1731 and 1736.

Again I agree that this couple William Hastings and his wife Elizabeth Brooks are the most likely couple to be parents of the William Hastings who married Mary Overshott in 1754 at Cookham.   That William and Mary were most likely the parents of the John Hastings baptised 1758 at Cookham who married Mary Mitchell in 1789 at Lt Marlow Bucks.
I have a note to the effect that there appears to be no baptism for a John Hastings in the Lt Marlow transcripts around the time to be of an age to marry Mary Mitchell in 1789.  Looks like I missed a son named William I only found one child in Hagbourne and that is the William Hasting baptised 1727.


You: Possible scenario where William's first wife Elizabeth passes away after the birth of William b. 1727. He then meets and marries Frances in Cookham bring along his son William b. 1727 which gives a nice explanation as to how William came to live in Cookham and marry Mary and have a son - our John b. 1758.

I haven't yet tried to prove that link, my family group sheet for William and Elizabeth shows only three children for this couple, all three baptised at Cookham:-
William 1757
John 1758
Thomas 1762

I have the following note at the top of the Family Group Sheet for the family of William Hastings and his wife Elizabeth Brooks "N.B. As yet there is no proven link between this family and the John Hastings who married Mary Mitchell nee Clarke at Little Marlow."

Having said there's no proof I think the many uses of the names William, John and Thomas in my wife's Hastings line, although common names they are of some significance.

I'd like to make it clear at this point that I'm happy with having any of my theories/comments shot down, 

[findem]

You may want to scroll back a couple of pages Findem as we have been discussing this Caroline and Daniel and Charlotte for a couple of days here. Basically, I have been making the case for Charlotte's maiden name being Webb.

I will do that Doug, I hadn't forgotten, just that I wanted to state where I am at the moment with the Hastings, then I'll move on to Charlotte and Caroline.  I will scroll back a couples of pages and also review my Family Group Sheets and notes, I need to get the Hill/Webb/Russell picture in perspective again. 

[DougTCanada]

I think you mean William and Mary (Overshott) being the parents of William, John and Thomas -  not William and Elizabeth?

I haven't yet tried to prove that link, my family group sheet for William and Elizabeth shows only three children for this couple, all three baptised at Cookham:-
William 1757
John 1758
Thomas 1762

[DougTCanada]

There is a small issue with "time" if Elizabeth Brooks were to be the mother of William Hastings in that she married William senior 23 Oct. 1726 and William junior was born just 4 months later as he was baptized 26 Feb. 1727 in Habourne.

[DougTCanada]

Also an issue with Mary Overshott as records show she married Thomas Pool 3 may 1756 in Cookham.

[DougTCanada]

Because there seems to be more information available we may have been led totally off base by looking in the Berkshire direction for Hastings especially looking at Hagbourne which is 30 miles away from Little Marlow. There are other candidates in Buckinghamshire that are closer. There is a William Hasting who marries Elizabeth Turner (or "Turnr." ) in West Wycombe in 1725 a mere 6 miles away. I am sure there are more Hastings in the area just that the info isn't readily available. There is also some in Wendover which is 16 miles away. William "Haston" b. 1725 to William and Mary. 

Yikes,  this is not going to be easy.

[DougTCanada]

In the book "Pedigrees of Buckinghamshire Families" Elizabeth, daughter of Sir William Henley, marries the untitled Henry Hastings in the early 1500's and they go on to have commoner "Hastings" children not worthy of being recorded in such books. With a strong history in Buckinghamshire they may be no reason to look outside to Berkshire.

Probably an impossible task until more records are transcribed?