ingleton windwill

[golliboy]

Hi Mag, I do not know alot about the history of the Lee's as I was born and raised in Australia. My Grandmother is Lilian Lee who passed when I was 6. Her father and Mother were Herbert and Violet Lee and Violets Mother was Margaret Pybus. I have a couple of pictures of My Gran Lilian with her sisters when they were young and know that we are related to the Joseph Todd (Turnpike and Blacksmith in Auckland) though I am not sure how yet? I also know we are related to the Aldersons/Mudd and Wilson's, but that is really all I have, beside what I have found on here and Ancestry.I stumbled across these post's while trying to find information about the Ingleton Windmill due to what was listed on the census records.  Faith

[Geordie Mag]

Hi Faith,
The key link between the Lees and the Todds is that Thomas Lee, the miller of Ingleton, married Elizabeth Todd, granddaughter of Joseph Todd the tollgate keeper (daughter of his son Thomas, who farmed at Killerby near Ingleton). Thomas and Elizabeth's son Richard Alfred married Harriet Alderson and one of their children was Herbert.
Going back from Thomas is problematic. His parents were John and Isabella Lee, who for some time lived near Wolsingham, in Weardale, and followed the miner/farmer way of life typical of the North Pennines. We have been walking in the area where they lived today, but their former home is somewhere underneath Tunstall Reservoir. However, It is difficult to find their parents. John seems to have come from the the area round Allenheads just over the Northumberland border, but there were quite a few John Lees.
If you reply to this, I shall then be able to send you a personal message and give you my email address. I have a lot of family photos. Mag

[golliboy]

Hi Mag,

Thank you so much your information to me is very much appreciate. It can be a tad difficult researching when you area sitting on the other side of the world at a keyboard and not really having too much knowledge of the area and surrounding villages.  I am so thrilled to have found you, as by what I can gather and if I am correct we are 1st cousin 1 x removed. Faith

[Geordie Mag]

I have sent you a PM.

Mag

[DBbbbb]

I am trying to find out why the Todd family moved from Marylebone (London) to Killerby in the late 1850s. The head of the family ((John, a boot and shoemaker) appears to have died in 1859 leaving a will which he wrote in 1846. I believe they had family connections to Middleton house in Ingleton.

[Geordie Mag]

Hello and welcome.

John was the 4th child of Thomas Todd, who farmed at Killerby, though John was born in the nearby hamlet of Langton in 1820, so perhaps Thomas had not yet taken on the farm at Killerby.
In my records I have made a note that going through the records of the chapel at Denton, I found a record of the death of John Todd aged 33 at Killerby in 1853 "having recently returned from London." Sadly it does not give a cause of death (some earlier burial records do). I imagine that he was not well and thought his family would have more support if they were near his family. (Although it could be that work was not going well and he thought he would have more chance of employment in his home area)
His older brother , Joseph, farmed at Middleton House, Ingleton.
Hope this helps.
Mag

[DBbbbb]

Thank you for your reply. I have John born in 25.06.1820.
He was a boot and shoe maker in London (39 Albany St., then 8 Charlotte St., then 11 Upper Dorset St. in London).
This ties in with what you tell me.
Unfortunately I have his death (from death certificate and from his will) as 18.11.1859 at Ingleton of ‘General debility’ aged 49.
I wonder where the mix up is.
I also have his full name as John Southeron Todd (grandmother’s maiden name being Southeran)

[Geordie Mag]

I have John Southeron Todd as John's  uncle, born 1789, but I shall check all the details tomorrow. All very strange, since you have the certificate.
Mag

[DBbbbb]

I have the wills of John Southern Todd (1859), Thomas Todd (1872), Joseph Todd (1885).
Birth certificates of John Southern Todd (1848) and Wilfred George Todd 1900).
Marriage certificate of John Southern Todd and Mary White (1844).
Death certificate of John Southern Todd (1859).
Let me have your email address and I will send you any that you may not have.
Regards,
David