Clara (Mary?) White b. 1838

[snowleopard]

I've come to a dead end with my gt-gt-gt-grandmother, Clara Richards, nee White. Appears on census 1871 onwards & in birth certs for children + own death certs, as Clara born in Green Hill, Leics. In 1861 census shown as Mary, which is actually the name of her baby daughter. No trace of her birth or marriage. her husband, John Richards, from Colston Bassett, appears to work as agricultural labourer in Hose in 1851 census, which is where both live in 1861 census. Any help would be welcome to get past this brick wall! Thanks!!

[Finley 1]

Being nagged to get on with household matters!!!! 
ah well had a quick look at census rtns leic 1851 and found a Clara White daughter of William and Mary in Whitwick... which is nr. Coalville...

sorry got to leave it now.   sure you will get other help

xin

[diddymiller]

Hi SnowL.and welcome to RC.

Looked up census to get details like children / pob etc.

1871:Colston Bassett,Notts
John Richards 37 ag lab   colston Bassett
Clara              33             green hill,leics
Mary G           11               hose
John william      8                 "
Clara L              6                 "
Sarah M           3             colston Bassett
Emma             1                   "

know you might have this but it helps us to make sure we have right family.
will now work backwards,

Diddy

[diddymiller]

the 1851 census Xin found makes sense (GreenHill is a part of Coalville now)

William White 41 ag lab   Loughborough
Mary Ann White 42         Bardon
Emma White 17
Clara White 14
George White 12
Thomas White 10
Elizabeth White 8
Harriet White 5
Mary Ann White 1

I am in L'boro so if we get further back i can check records for you.

Diddy

[diddymiller]

i can't find a marriage at the moment. there is a birth -date slightly out:

Clara White june Q 1840 loughborough

I can check this one in the library next time in to save you sending for it.

Diddy

[Mike from Leicester]

Cooo-eee......Diddymiller…..

There’s a possible marriage  ?:~

1834.
All Saints Parish Church. Loughborough.

William White. ~ Mary STREET.
3rd. March.
By Banns.

MIKE. ….
 

[diddymiller]

Hi Mike...
 
the marriage I meant was Clara & John around 1851 -1861 but can check the other anyway!!

Diddy 

[snowleopard]

Wow! Thanks Xin, Diddy & Mike,
Your info is really helpful!
Yes, the 1871 family in Colston Bassett is mine: Mary Elizabeth (gt-gt-gran), John William, Clara L, Sarah M (known in family as Tal) & Ada Emma.
The big problem with poorer families, whose girls go into service, is trying to track their whereabouts pre-marriage. Also, I know from Mary Elizabeth in 1881 census that the householder can put down the current home village for his servants' place of birth, rather than asking them!
William & Mary look like a good bet for Clara's parents, as her eldest girl is Mary & her eldest son has William for his middle name.
Diddy, it would be great if you get a chance to check things in your local library.  It took me a long time & several visits to Colston Bassett & Nottingham to track down John Richards death (1871-81), as the PRO had no record of it ... finally found an almost illegible entry on microfiche for 1875 & (hoping a family tale was true) found newspaper stories of the accident in their records too. Sometimes, even post-1837, local research is the only avenue (but not that easy when you are no longer 'local'!).
Your help is really appreciated.
SnowLeopard

[diddymiller]

I Have found Clara and family on the 1841. be aware that there is another Clara White with parents william & Mary (Paget) born Loughborough 1840ish, think that may be the one i found birth for. however on 1841 her father william is not born in county.

your Clara:

1841 whitwick
William White 30
Marey White 30
Sarh White 8
Emma White 6
Clarah White 4
George White 2
Thomas White 1 Mo


Ho107/596/18

Diddy