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Offline Molly Atkin

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Double marking of graves
« on: Thursday 15 April 10 09:40 BST (UK) »
I've found some family graves from mid 19th century that have the usual size of headstone with a much smaller one immediately in front. Sometimes the smaller gravestone appears to have the initials of the person whose name is given in full behind but often the smaller stone obscures part of the inscription on the bigger one. Does anyone know the purpose of the small stone - I thought it might be a temporary marker until the 'real' stone was placed in position but then why leave the small one?

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Re: Double marking of graves
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 April 10 10:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Molly

We have a number of these in our local Churchyard, usually position at the foot of the grave

Is it possible that yours has been relocated to ease access and/or maintenence

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Re: Double marking of graves
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 April 10 10:39 BST (UK) »
I'm not sure but it's a possibility. If the small ones had started off at the foot then moving them to make them flush with the large headstone would certainly help maintenance but why keep them at all as they don't seem to serve any purpose and moving them just covers up part of the larger headstone? It's a mystery to me!

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Re: Double marking of graves
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 11:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Molly,

I was about to post the same sort of thing myself, but with a twist. These ones came from Cornwall, but arent at the foot of the grave, but adjacent. Confused me competely as im currently putting photos of the whole cemetery online.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=51375358

David.
Northants - Stevenson, Smith, Spriggs, Hight, Dodson, Coleman
Swansea - Thomas, Williams, Howell, David, Rees, Griffiths, Jenkins, Bevan
Rutland - Hales
Derbyshire - Harlow, Riley, Pemberton, Aldred
Yorkshire - Stamper, Boyes, Duke
London - Harper, Wallis
Essex - Shelford, Wallis, Read, Stanes
Hertfordshire - Bishop
Cornwall - Johns, Soper, Rowe, Ball, Webb, Dunn, Quintrell, Hain, Oliver
Gloucestershire - Harper, Ash, Gregory, Denman
County Durham - Proud, Duke
Yorkshire - Stamper, Pickering


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Re: Double marking of graves
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 11:20 BST (UK) »
I have come across this myself and I assumed that it was a marker for the grave postion when the coffin was first interred.
Then after the grave had settled the larger stone was put in place. Or was it a marker for a reserved plot, something that I am led to believe occurred a lot during Victorian times.
ABELL-Hfds & Glouc. AWFORD-Glouc, Hfds & Worcs. DANTER-Glouc,Hfds & Worcs. DAUNTER-Hfds, Glouc & Worcs. BAYLISS-Worcs & Glouc. BILLINGHAM-Hfds. JENKINS-Glam, & Hfds. PIPER-Suffolk, Glam & Hfds. CULLUM-Hfds, Suffolk & Mom.
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Re: Double marking of graves
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 11:28 BST (UK) »
do you mean the foot stone ?
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: Double marking of graves
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 12:53 BST (UK) »
But, if it was the initial marker for the grave, why leave it there and put the final, larger headstone immediately behind it so part is obscured? Or is the small stone the foot stone which has been moved to rest against the headstone for purposes of cemetery maintenance? What was the purpose of the foot stone?

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Re: Double marking of graves
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 13:04 BST (UK) »
In my case, its to the side by about 3ft! Im confused too!
Northants - Stevenson, Smith, Spriggs, Hight, Dodson, Coleman
Swansea - Thomas, Williams, Howell, David, Rees, Griffiths, Jenkins, Bevan
Rutland - Hales
Derbyshire - Harlow, Riley, Pemberton, Aldred
Yorkshire - Stamper, Boyes, Duke
London - Harper, Wallis
Essex - Shelford, Wallis, Read, Stanes
Hertfordshire - Bishop
Cornwall - Johns, Soper, Rowe, Ball, Webb, Dunn, Quintrell, Hain, Oliver
Gloucestershire - Harper, Ash, Gregory, Denman
County Durham - Proud, Duke
Yorkshire - Stamper, Pickering

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Re: Double marking of graves
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 13:05 BST (UK) »
chris in1066 land will probably knew the answer  :) he is a font of all knowledge when it comes to gravestones and marking
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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