*COMPLETED*piecing together O'MALLEY in VIC

[cando]

Do you think he perhaps lied about his age and birthplace on his marriage cert??

Janine

Wouldn't be the first time

He could have been born Victoria and his birth not registered.  Perhaps his age was estimated for his death registration.  Information on death certs is unreliable.  You could look at his age and place of birth on his marriage cert of Belinda Elizabeth LUCAS.

Having a quick look at the death indexes, a couple of possible deaths for your couple.....and Melbourne East Hospital may mean a indicate Charles died in the Melbourne Benevolent Asylum.  The two death registrations of the children Jane and Catherine had father named as Charles.

OMALLEY Charles
Parents unknown
At  Melb East Hospital 68 years  1895
 
OMALLEY Honora
Parents unknown 
At Fitzroy South  65 years 1900  Reg#9019

If this is your Honora there may be identifying information about who and when she married, when and where she was born, her marriage status and the names of her children.  If it was my family this would be the cert I would purchase.  There aren't a lot of OMALLEY deaths on the indexes so makes it a bit easier to speculate.

Did another trawl for any deaths with either Charles or Patrick OMALLEY as father and Honora as mother.  Once again would have to see some certificates to validate the info.

DOYLE Susan  [b.c1867]
Father OMalley Patrick  Mother Honora UNKNOWN
At Hotham West  38 years  1905   Reg#12943

Just in case she is one of yours, here is her  marriage and children.

Marriage
OMALLEY Susan born Melbourne
DOYLE Michael
1888  Reg#884

Birth
DOYLE Michael
Father Michael  Mother Susan OMALLEY
At Carlton  1889  Reg#19407
Death
DOYLE Michael
Father Michael  Mother Susan OMALEY
15 weeks  At Carlton  1889  Reg#15555

Birth
DOYLE Hanora
Father Michael  Mother Susan OMALEY
At Carlton  1890  Reg#10973
Marriage
DOYLE Norah born Carlton
STONE Henry Edward born Beaconsfield        [?Tas]
1908  Reg#8946
Death
STONE Norah
Father Doyle Unknown  Mother UNKNOWN
At Prahran  85 years  1975  Reg#13946

Birth
DOYLE James
Father Michael  Mother Susan OMALLEY
At Carlton  1892  Reg#21035
Death
DOYLE James
Father Doyle Michael  Mother Susan  OMALLEY
At Melbourne  41 years  1933  Reg#8940

Birth
DOYLE Susan
Father Michael  Mother Susan OMALLEY
At Carlton  1893  Reg#29789
Death
DOYLE Susan
Father Michael  Mother Susan  OMALLEY
At Abbotsford  68  1964  Reg#2439
Buried at Fawkner

So far

OMALLEY PATRICK CHARLES (adult) m. OBRIEN HONORA (adult) on 30 Apr 1857 at LAUNCESTON Reg: 610/1857 RGD 37

Merlin

OMALLEY (female) Name Not Recorded b. 16 Dec 1862 at PORT SORELL Reg: 1242/1863 RGD 33
Father: CHARLES
Mother: HONORIA OBRIEN

Merlin

Births - and there could be more

OMALLEY Catherine 1859
OMALLEY Honora c1861  Possibly unnamed female on the Tas bdm 1862
OMALLEY Jane  c1865 b.  Tasmania according to death reg.
OMALLEY Susan  c1870 b. Melbourne according to marriage reg and age from death reg.
OMALLEY Edward c1875 b.Melbourne according to marriage reg.

Charles OMALLEY and Honora OBRIEN had
Jane died age 4 1869 was born in Tasmania
Honora died age 21 Carl Hosp 1882
Catherine died age 23 Melb S 1882

Momamg

Cando

Edit to amend spelling.

[cando]

You will have the oral history but here is a little about Helena Olive OMALLEY.

Marriage
OMALLEY Helena Olive
WOOD Thomas Edward
1939  Reg#8824

Australian Electoral Roll
1931, 1936
OMALLEY Edward Albert  266 Queens Parade Fitzroy North  Bootmaker
OMALLEY Helen Olive  266 Queens Parade Fitzroy North  Tailoress

1937
OMALLEY Helen Olive  266 Queens Parade, Fitzroy North  Tailoress

1942
WOOD Helena Olive  266 Queens Parade, Clifton Hill  HD
WOOD Thomas Edward  266 Queens Parade, Clifton Hill  Bootmaker

1949
WOOD Helena Olive  4 Spensley Street, Clifton Hill  HD
WOOD Thomas Edward  4 Spensley Street, Clifton Hill  Electroplater

1954
WOOD Helena Olive  4 Spensley Street, Clifton Hill HD
WOOD Thomas Edward  4 Spensley Street, Clifton Hill  Storeman

Helena aged 80 years died on 9 Nov 1988 and Thomas Edward Charles aged 83 years on 18 Jun 1988.  Both were cremated and buried at Fawkner Cemetery.
http://www.fcmp.com.au/

Birth
WOOD Thomas Edward Charles
Father Harry  Mother Rosina HORE
At Clifton Hill 1905  Reg#2058

Janine I always use google maps streetview to see if the homes of those I am researching are still there.  You may like to do the same   Adds a bit of interest to the search.

Cheers
Cando

[Timetraveller77]

Gosh Cando, how do I thank you enough for all this amazing info you have given me. You really have been wonderful. Believe it or not but I have just made contact with an O'Malley "cousin" who is a descendant of Charles Patrick OMALLEY and Honora OBRIEN.

Here is what she gave me today:

Charles (Patrick) O'Malley likely born Co. Galway, Ireland - found in TAS as a 17yr painter convicted of theft at Mountbellow Bridge, County Galway and sent to v.D.L (Van Deimens Land presumably) for 7yrs.

First daughter Mary Ann OMALLEY born 19 Jun 1855 (not registered)  TAS
Twin sons William and Edward OMALLEY died Port Sorell TAS
dau Catherine OMALLEY born 1859 La Trobe, TAS (no baptism record found)
dau Honora OMALLEY born 6 Aug 1861 La Trobe, TAS
dau Susan OMALLEY born 16 Dec 1862 La Trobe, TAS [the "Unnamed female" on the index, reg. Port Sorell?]
dau Jane OMALLEY born 7 Aug 1865 La Trobe, TAS
son Edward OMALLEY born 11 Jun 1870 Melbourne, VIC Baptised St Patricks Cathedral 18 Dec 1871

Helena Olive WOOD nee OMALLEY died 10 Nov 1988

Apparently Edward OMALLEY [born 1870] went out to work one day after his children left home, and he never returned. He died at Morella Private Hospital, Rennie St, Coburg 21 Aug 1941 [so it matches your death index Cando]. The info on his death cert is sparse and mostly inaccurate, supplied by an authorised agent. [The cert says] under "issue" 'one male child, name and age unknown'.

End of quote.

Seems I have a new resource for this family now, so I perhaps I should mark this thread as complete, to save you more work  .
Thank you so much for all your efforts, everyone who helped out. Without it I wouldn't have found all this new information.

Kind regards, Janine

[cando]

Perhaps this is him

http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=C&id=53854

Cheers
Cando

[Timetraveller77]

Yes, I found that record as well. I might have to check with my new 'friend' to see if she has a copy of his convict record already. I guess I am being a bit impatient, as usual LOL.

Thanks for that Cando.

[cando]

You can view it online.  Conduct records etc in blue font are links to digitised images.

Cando

[in2mud]

Hi, I came across your post when searching for info about my O'Malley ancestors
My Great Grandmothers name was Mary O'Malley,she was born in Tasmania about 1855, on her death certificate her father is listed as Charles O'Malley.
Research done by an elder family member suggests that she is the daughter of Patrick Charles O'Malley & Honora O'Brien who were married in Launceston,Tasmania,1857.
Mary is the unnamed child born to them in Tasmania.
I have a copy of Honora O'Malley's death certificate, it states she was born in Shallon ,Ireland & lived in Tasmania about 2 years & then lived in Victoria about 44 years When she died in August 1900 her children were listed on her death certificate as
Mary Ann- 42yrs,
Catherine - died,
Honora- died,
Susan - 35 yrs
Edward - 27 Yrs

Edward is listed as the Informant

Honora O'Malley's residence at time of death is listed as 65 Condell St, Fitzroy, Melbourne
Possibly we are related?

[in2mud]

Hi, I came across your post when searching for info about my O'Malley ancestors
My Great Grandmothers name was Mary O'Malley,she was born in Tasmania about 1855, on her death certificate her father is listed as Charles O'Malley.
Research done by an elder family member suggests that she is the daughter of Patrick Charles O'Malley & Honora O'Brien who were married in Launceston,Tasmania,1857.
Mary is the unnamed child born to them in Tasmania.
I have a copy of Honora O'Malley's death certificate, it states she was born in Shallon ,Ireland & lived in Tasmania about 2 years & then lived in Victoria about 44 years When she died in August 1900 her children were listed on her death certificate as
Mary Ann- 42yrs,
Catherine - died,
Honora- died,
Susan - 35 yrs
Edward - 27 Yrs

Edward is listed as the Informant

Honora O'Malley's residence at time of death is listed as 65 Condell St, Fitzroy, Melbourne
Possibly we are related?

On her death certificate it also states that she was a Widow , Edwards address is also listed as 65 Condell St, Fitzroy