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Re: Help what to try next please for EDSALL Henry David Howes
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 17 April 10 00:24 BST (UK) »
hi Jenn,
I can see mr, mrs Edsall and child  travelling from Adelaide  to London in 1866 on the "City of Adelaide" . I can't find any other details on the Ships website but I presume its HN Edsall.
So there must be an arrival back to Adelaide I haven't found that  though, it may have other information.
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Re: Help what to try next please for EDSALL Henry David Howes
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 17 April 10 01:52 BST (UK) »
hi Jenn,
I can see mr, mrs Edsall and child  travelling from Adelaide  to London in 1866 on the "City of Adelaide" . I can't find any other details on the Ships website but I presume its HN Edsall.
So there must be an arrival back to Adelaide I haven't found that  though, it may have other information.
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Hi there Romaly

Can you please tell me where you have found this information

thanks Jenn
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Re: Help what to try next please for EDSALL Henry David Howes
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 17 April 10 02:43 BST (UK) »
hi Jenn
The website is called http:/cityofadelaide.org.au
sorry not sure how to add a link, Googling will find it though
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Re: Help what to try next please for EDSALL Henry David Howes
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 17 April 10 03:48 BST (UK) »
thanks for that Romaly

Very Interesting, could well be HN going to England for a visit.

I have found him going back and forth to Melbourne no doubt to conduct business and see his two brothers families in Melbourne.

As you know the  Edsall  family had a market garden and seed business on Brighton, and HN also conducted a similar business in Adelaide.


Still no further to finding out the parentage of HDH EDsall though.

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Re: Help what to try next please for EDSALL Henry David Howes
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 17 April 10 13:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Jenn,

Some more thoughts

Do you have the names of the parents of those two likely brothers at Brighton  ;) from any certificates
Could the parents of those two likely brothers ... well could either of the death certs of those parents have HDHE's name included as a descendant (even if spelling or order of Christian names is not quite right)... 

Could Sarah Watts have been previously married and/or have siblings who had a son who was raised by Sarah and Henry North Edsall  (thus a reason for not nominating HDHE in the will, and also a reason for birth registration not coming to light under EDSALL) ?


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Re: Help what to try next please for EDSALL Henry David Howes
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 17 April 10 14:07 BST (UK) »
I feel confident in saying that HDHE does not tie into the Edsall family in Victoria other that the fact that two HNEs brothers  Samuel Mullins Edsall and Charles Stokes Edsall families were in Victoria. I have a lot of information on  this side of things so do not need anything further there thanks.

Sarah Watts was a single woman who came to Australia wife her sister and the sister married James Nicholson Smith and they had a large family in Adelaide and many many descendants. 
The rest of her siblings all staed in England.  Ihave full details on these two ladies. 

I have trolled the SA births for that time and nothing comes to light.


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Re: Help what to try next please for EDSALL Henry David Howes
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 18 April 10 01:57 BST (UK) »
Jenn,

Do you know who the parents of Henry North EDSALL were?

I have come across a parish baptism that is a very good match for him if the parents match then I'd say it's his  :)

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Re: Help what to try next please for EDSALL Henry David Howes
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 18 April 10 03:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks Merlin,

Yes I do have HN Edsall's parents etc, it is the parentage of Henry David Howers/Howes Edsall that I cannot find or validate a birth for
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HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
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Re: Help what to try next please for EDSALL Henry David Howes
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 18 April 10 04:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Jenn,

That's fine, I knew you were looking for HDHE's birth  :)

I was just searching for him & came across Henry North's baptism records from a church & wondered if you had them or not  8)