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Can this moustache comb be dated from the marks?
« on: Saturday 17 April 10 16:13 BST (UK) »
I believe this to be a moustache comb.  Not sure what metal the comb is (silver gilt?)  the case is bone (or is it ivory  :-\)

I have looked in a book of silver marks but haven't found these, any ideas? 
Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: Can this moustache comb be dated from the marks?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 19 April 10 23:54 BST (UK) »
Possibly Sheffield plate

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Re: Can this moustache comb be dated from the marks?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 April 10 17:28 BST (UK) »
Thank you still_looking

Have looked at Sheffield plate marks nothing resembling those on the comb  :-\

Susan
Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: Can this moustache comb be dated from the marks?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 April 10 17:49 BST (UK) »
I found something very similar on this site.

http://www.silvercollection.it/ENGLISHSILVERMARKSXGDUE3.html

George Wikes London, 1745

Sems very old, but it does look very alike!  :)

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Re: Can this moustache comb be dated from the marks?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 April 10 21:10 BST (UK) »
The crown would make it Sheffield (if it was silver) but then the mark on the left doesn't look right and barring something early there should be a fourth mark

silver mark, assay office, date letter, makers mark

It may of course have been sold with the claim that it was silver

Have you checked to see if it is magnetic?


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Re: Can this moustache comb be dated from the marks?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 April 10 17:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the link Meles  :D

It's not magnetic.  OH reckons the comb could be gold  :-\  I didn't think it was gold because the colour is paler than 9 ct gold, that's why I thought silver gilt.

It's is very old and I've had it for 50+ years.  In the mid 1950s we moved into a Georgian house, built c 1745, needed a lot of renovation work including lifting original floorboards where the comb was found.  As children my siblings and I had great fun treasure hunting!

The name on the comb is H. Hathaway.

Susan  :)
Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: Can this moustache comb be dated from the marks?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 April 10 22:04 BST (UK) »
Given that you have a name and an address have you tried checking for a record of a Hathaway owning the house?

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Re: Can this moustache comb be dated from the marks?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 23 April 10 22:58 BST (UK) »
Looks like the Sheffield crown. At a push I would go for 1788 for the date mark, if it is the date mark, the other mark I dont know about.[ Not a hundred percent sure of this!] . Shouldn't think it was sheffield plate as plate was a sheet of copper sandwiched between two sheets of silver and the edges had to be sealed over to cover the copper, difficult to do with a comb. Electroplate solved that problem, if it was electroplate [epns] I would expect to see the plate worn through in the hinge area. So, probably silver gilt.       PS just had another look at the photo, what is the colour of the wear at the hinge, is it the same metal or different.
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  WILSON;-Wiltshire.
 SOUL;-Gloucestershire.
 SANSUM;-Berkshire-Wiltshire
 BASSON-BASTON;- Berkshire,- Oxfordshire.
 BRIDGES;- Wiltshire.
 DOWDESWELL;-Wiltshire,Gloucestershire
 JORDAN;- Berkshire.
 COX;- Berkshire.
 GOUDY;- Suffolk.
 CHATFIELD;-Sussex-- London
 MORGAN;-Blaenavon-Abersychan
 FISHER;- Berkshire.
 BLOMFIELD-BLOOMFIELD-BLUMFIELD;-Suffolk.
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YOUNG-Berkshire
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Re: Can this moustache comb be dated from the marks?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 24 April 10 01:51 BST (UK) »
Is there any chance of getting a bigger/colour/high-res scan of the marks?  The fact that the lion passant is missing is bothersome as that is (presumably) the indicator of solid silver.    I'm trying to work out what the first mark is - looks like a "T" but not quite enough to make me say it is for sure!  The second letter does look like the Sheffield 1788 "W" as youngtug says.

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