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Henry Messenger
« on: Sunday 25 April 10 02:33 BST (UK) »
Hi.The Messenger Family from St Bee's Henry Messenger bn 1803 St Bee's and James Messenger bn 1877 either St. Bee's or Beckermet. Doe's anyone have any info on this family. Regards Bullamore

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Re: Henry Messenger
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 April 10 05:09 BST (UK) »
I think Henry has be listed twice once in Lancashire and his wife has listed him also

1851 H0107/2179 folio 254 page 8 Liverpool  Lancashsire

John Messenger age 50 Bread distribitor at Parish office St Bees Cumberland
Mary age 40 St Bess
John son age 25 porter at Parish office Whitehaven Cumberland
Jane dau age 22 Berkermont Cumberland
John Mossop  stepson age 7 Liverpool
William Jones lodger Liverpool
Henry Messenger married  age 47 visitor born St Bees Cumberland Cart Owner

John Messenger married Jane Mossop 1850 june quarter Liverpool Lancashire 20 185

1851 H0107/2436 folio 417 page 24  Whitehaven Cumberland

Henry Messenger age 47 Carrier born St Bees
Sarah age 46 wife Moresby
James son age 20 ag lab St Bees
John son age 19 ag lab rest born Moresby
Henry son age 16 ag lab
Jane dau age 15
Elizabeth dau age 13
Dickson or Dickerson son age 11
Sarah dau age 9
Hannah dau age 7


Pam
oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: Henry Messenger
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 25 April 10 05:43 BST (UK) »
1841 H0107/157/8 folio ? page 1 Moresby Cumberland Reg district Whitehaven

Henry Messenger age 35 ag lab
Sarah age 35
Ruth age 12
John age 9
Henry age 7
Jane age 5
Elizabeth age 3
Dickinson age 2
Sarah age 2months

1841 H0107/157/8 folio 5 page 5  Moresby Cumberland
John Wilson age 70
Ruth age 65
Isaac age 45
Thomas age 35
Ruth age 30
Hannah age 25
Mary age 20
4 male servants

James Messenger age 9     MS

Looks as if the Wilsons are relations may be James was listed incorrectly has a Male servant wonder if Sarah Messenger was a Wilson


1851 H0107/2436 folio 194 page 16 Moresby Cumberland
The High

Isaac Wilson age 58 farmer of 150 acres employing 4 lab
Thomas age 46 brother

Ruth Messenger age 21 niece housekeeper
2 servants


Pam
oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: Henry Messenger
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 25 April 10 06:27 BST (UK) »
I have a Henry Messenger in my tree.  He was born in Whitehaven, Cumbria in 1822.  He married in 1850 in Kent and died in Devon  in 1907.  He worked as a coastguard officer.
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Re: Henry Messenger
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 25 April 10 06:52 BST (UK) »
1861 Rg9/3945 folio 67 page 13 Moresby Cumberland

High

Issaac Wilson age 68 farmer 100 acres Cumberland
John Messenger age 28 ag lab Moresby
Henry Messenger age 26 nephew ag lab Moresby
Sarah niece age 20 housekeeper Moresby

1861 Rg9/2727 folio 123 page 40

West Derby Lancashire

Henry Messenger age 58 Porter born St Bees
Sarah Messenger age 56 Moresby
Hannah dau age 17 Moresby Cumberland  Servant


Ruth Messenger married Wilson Hewitt  sept quarter 1859 Liverpool Lancashire 8b 263


1861 Rg9/2677 folio 62 page 44 Liverpool  Lancashire

32 Pitt Street

Elizabeth Ellwood age  36 grocer widow Harrington Cumberland
William son age 10 Liverpool

Ruth Hewitt age 31 married sister in law born Moresby Cumberland Captains wife

2 lodgers
John Robinson visitor age 60 married
1 servant

1871 RG10/ folio page Moresby Cumberland

Dowgate or Howgate

Wilson Hewitt age 48 Master Mariner Harrington
Ruth wife age 42 born Moresby  Cumberland
Betty dau age 2 Liverpool Lancashire

1871 Rg10/3802 folio 113 page 24 Toxteth Park Lancashire

Henry Messenger age 68 Porter Cumberland
Sarah age 67 Cumberland

1871 Moresby

Isaac Wilson age 78 born Irton
Henry Messenger age 35 nephew
Jane Messenger age 34 niece
3 servants

1871 RG10/ 5259 folio 71 page 31 Hesingham Cumberland reg district Whitehaven sub reg St Bees

Mill Hill
John Messenger age 38 farmer of 56 acres Moresby
Hannah wife age 37
Anne dau age 5
Isaac son age 4
Henry son age 2
Sarah dau age 3 months
4 servants

1881 Hesingham Cumberland reg district Whitehaven sub reg St BeesMill Hill

John Messenger age 47 corn Miller farmer of 80 acres employing 3 men 1 girl
Hannah wife age 46
Ann dau age 15
Isaac son age  14
Henry son age 12
Sarah dau age 10
Joseph son age 8
Ruth dau age 5
James son age 4 born Cumberland
John son age 1

4 servants

1881 Moresby Cumberland

The High Farm

Wilson Hewitt age 58 Farmer of 170 acres born Harrington
Ruth age 52 Moresby
Betty dau age 12 Liverpool
Isaac Wilson age 88 Uncle Anniutant born Irton
Henry Messenger age 46 head  farm servant  Moresby
4 servants

1881 Toxteth Park
Lancashire
Dickinson Messenger age 41 born Moresby Cumberland Dock Porter
Ester J wife age 33 born Douglas Isle of Man
Henry son age 3 born Liverpool
2 boarders

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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: Henry Messenger
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 25 April 10 14:13 BST (UK) »
1891 RG12/4312 folio 133 page 8 Moresby Cumberland

Lowdale Place

Wilson Hewitt age 68 retired Master Mariner born Harrington
Ruth wife age 62 Moresby
 Betty dau age 22 Liverpool
Rose Ann Cornfrey servant

1891 Rg12/4316 folio 64 page 10 St Bees Hessingham Cumberland

Mill Hill Mill
Hannah Messenger transcribes Messages age 56 widow Farmer and Miller born frizington Cumberland
Ann Messenger dau age 25 all born hensingham
Isaac Wilson Messenger son age 23
Henry Messenger son age 22
Sarah Elizabeth Messenger dau age 20
Joseph Messenger age 18
Ruth Messenger dau age 15
James Messenger age 14
William Messenger age 9

1901 RG13/4894 folio 41 page 12 Hensingham Cumberland reg district Whithaven

Mill Hill Mill

Isaac W Messenger age 33 Farmer and Miller all born Hensingham
Sarah E sister age 30
Joseph brother age 28
Ruth sister age 25
James brother age 24
William brother age 19
Jane Donald servant


Here is Ruth Hewitt nee messengers daughter

1901 Rg13/4893  folio 133 page 19 Mt Pleasant Whitehaven Cumberland

Walter H Gass age 34 chemist shop keeper born Whitehaven Cumberland
Betty wife age 32 Liverpool Lancashire
Hannah Harvey servant

Walter Herbert Gass married Betty Hewitt dec quarter 1898 Birkenhead Cheshire/merseyside  8a 927


Pam
oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: Henry Messenger
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 25 April 10 15:05 BST (UK) »
1901 Rg13/3434 folio 142 page 10 Toxteth Park Lancashire

Dickinson Messenger age 62 Customs Watcher Moresby Cumberland
Esther J wife age 58 Isle of Man
Henry son age 23 Foreman Bookbinder Liverpool Lancashire


1891 Rg12/ 2934 folio 93 page 5 Toxteth Park

33 Miles Street

Dickinson Messinger age 51 Customs officer born Whitehaven Cumberland
Esther J wife age 42 Isle of Man Douglas
Henry son age 13 Liverpool

Dickinson Wilson Messenger sept quarter 1875 West derby Lancashire 8b 840a  no other on page


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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: Henry Messenger
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 25 April 10 15:44 BST (UK) »
Hello Bullamore.

Also a Death record for Henry Messenger Born 1803 Age 68 - Oct/Nov/Dec 1871. West Derby. Lanacashire - 8b 222.

Sarah Wilson/Messenger Age Born 1804 70 yrs - Apr - May -June 1874 West Derby. Lancashire.
Henry messenger son of Francis Messenger and Jane.
Sarah Wilson daughter of John Wilson and Ruth.

Son John Messenger Born 5 Feb 1832 Moresby Died 331 March 1890 Hensingham.

Hannah Turner/Messenger his wife Died 3rd April 1899 Hensingham. Whitehaven. 10b 407

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Re: Henry Messenger
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 25 April 10 15:59 BST (UK) »
James Messenger born 1877 Beckermet (son of John Messenger and Hannah Turner) married Sarah Eleanor Herbert. March 1910 Whitehaven District - 10b 961
John died at Beckernet - Age 44 years - 14 April 1921 - 10b 760
Sarah Herbert Born 1878 (Daughter of Tyson Herbert and Eleanor Harrington) Died 24 Dec 1967 Beckermet age 89 years - 1a 144.
They had 3 sons and 2 daughters.
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