++ COMPLETED ++ McLEOD - Lochbroom

[Gadget]

Hi houston 

See my reply here #6

Do you mean 1844 rather than 1884?

Hi again

On the 1851 census there is a possible Annabell and brother William in Ardmair (just around the corner from Ullapool):

Ardmair, Ullapool, Lochbroom

McLeod
John, 50, lotter
Flora, 46
Neil, 11
Anabell, 9
William, 6

All born Ardmair


Gadget

This looks very much like the family.



Gadget

[houston]

Hi Gadget
Yes it does sound like them.  Seems Annabell and William are brother and sister then - maybe she was working away from home
Be interested to hear if she does have some relationship to your friends

Is it possible to find anything on the census records about John and Flora the Mum and Dad?
Regards
Houston

[Gadget]

This is what remains of the 1851 family in 1871:

Contin, Lochbroom

Neil Mcleod, 29, shepherd.
Flora Mcleod, mother,  66, annuitant
Annabella Mcleod, sister, 26, general domestic servant


all b. Lochbroom

I've got a possible death for Flora in 1877, widow of John Macleod, crofer but her parents are given as Donald McKenzie and Ellen (?)  Macdonald.  I can't find any baptisms for the children so far or a marriage.


The main problem is all those McLeods 


Gadget

[Gadget]

I'm a bit confused now - re William's age  and the year of his  marriage.  I have a poss in 1874 in Sleat but he's down as 25 . Also parents  (John and Flora) are both dead 

[houston]

No that it -seems ok the birth cert in front of me - my grandfathers Glenelg County of Inverness No. D12209 says  Father William MacLeod Shepherd and Jessie MacLeod M.S. MacDonald 1874 August 6th Sleat.

I was going by what they have on this marriage cert  here for williams 2nd marriage where they have Flroa McLeod as the Mother then maiden surname - McLeod - that must be an error
They spell Annabella with an a on the end here also.
John McLeod was a Farmer (and I guess a crofter) on this marriage cert. (what is a lotter?)
Yes they seemed to breed like rabbits up there. Not a very original lot eh!
I would certainly like to have some of the lineage to hand onto the grand-children though.
Cheers
houston
 

[Gadget]

I've found your William on the 1871  in Glenshiel, but he's down as being born Glenelg circa 1846 and not Lochbroom in 1844. I'm now starting to think that the families are different but,  coincidentally,  have similar names.

Is there any other information that might help?

A lotter is a type of tenant farmer - before the Crofting Act of 1886. Most lotters became crofters.

http://www.highlandclearances.info/clearances/postclearances_croftersact.htm


Gadget

[houston]

Looking at this  record of marriage of William here in NZ to 2nd wife Jessie Cummings nee Forrest. I note it says:
 Conj. Status  Widower, then
 Fmr.hus/wf.dc - Dec. 23 1884- Could have that been the death date of Flora -

I am also wondering if that Roderick that you mentioned earlier might be a brother of John McLeod which would make them all cousins - a long shot I know.  dates and times have to match dont they.
I might have to leave off at this point till tomorrow as past 11pm now and need to be up early
houston

[aspin]

What a grt site I have been having a look through it
good on you Gadget

Elizabeth

[Gadget]

Elizabeth 

Houston - for when you return:

I've found a Flora Mcleod in Glenelg who could well be the mother of William. However, she appears to be a widow by 1841    This is a different family to the one in Lochbroom so there is no real evidence that the two families are related at all. There are thousands of Mcleods in the Highlands - with only tentative links via clanship (i.e. surname). You seem to not have any evidence that Annabella and William are related so it's even more difficult to work out what connections they have, if any.

If you could give me the names of both William's and Annabella's children in date order, we might be able to sort it out.


Regards

Gadget