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Date of enlistment from service number?
« on: Tuesday 27 April 10 19:42 BST (UK) »
Is it possible to work out the date of enlistment from the service number? I am interested in:Royal Sussex Regiment, G/24378. The man concerned was born in 1899. Thanks for any help you can give.   John
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Re: Date of enlistment from service number?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 27 April 10 19:46 BST (UK) »
If you try the Great War Forum, there are some wizards with numbers there who may help with an answer.  The soldier's name will help, too.
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Re: Date of enlistment from service number?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 27 April 10 19:59 BST (UK) »
When did he enlist, and in which regiment?My father also b1899 put his age up by 3 years and enlisted in 1915 "because he was bored"!He certainly relieved his boredom over the next 3 1/2 years.
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Re: Date of enlistment from service number?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 27 April 10 20:13 BST (UK) »
Yes this is what i'm trying to find out. The man concerned, Percival. G. had an uncle, Percival. E, who was born in 1892. they lived in the same area, and would both have shown the same next of kin. I can't find  any service records for'E'  A case of borrowed identity , perhaps?
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Re: Date of enlistment from service number?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 27 April 10 20:20 BST (UK) »
You have to be careful with the numbering in the Sussex Regiment it seems. If you search the National Archives medal site you find two men with the same number. Normally that means that different battalions had their own sequences. Although it is a surprise two used G/.

If you have the time, and Ancestry, you can search on the NA for G/2437? and G/2438?, and then try and find their service/pension record on Ancestry. You will then know when your man enlisted.

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Re: Date of enlistment from service number?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 27 April 10 20:21 BST (UK) »
Best left to the experts in army numbers. 24000+ seems to high for him to have enlisted early in the war, but some regimental numbers were changed during 1917, and their size was considerably increased.The pension information will only apply if the soldier received a pension on discharge.
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Re: Date of enlistment from service number?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 27 April 10 22:25 BST (UK) »
Just a thought - do you have this man's medal card? If he had a SWB [Silver War Badge] then the roll at Kew will give his dates of enlistment and discharge and - in about 40% of cases - his age at discharge as well.

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Re: Date of enlistment from service number?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 April 10 07:36 BST (UK) »
The MIC shows Victory and British medals only.with a ref.no.of;E/2/101 B/11 page 2120. Nothing on reverse.Crowhurst Percival G. R.Sussex R. Pte G/24378.     Thanks  for your advice.  John
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Re: Date of enlistment from service number?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 28 April 10 12:36 BST (UK) »
Only territorial battalions were renumbered in 1917. They were given six-digit numbers. I am sure other regiments used G/ for (General) Service Battalions. But I cannot be certain. The problem is non-territorial battalions could do very much what they liked. So you do need a Sussex expert.

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