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How do i find what he did??
« on: Sunday 02 May 10 19:47 BST (UK) »
I've just discovered one of my rellies was in prison on the 1841 census..
County Prison, St Mary, Stafford.
John Parrish/parish christened 1821 shropshire..

Can anyone tell me how to find out what he did to end up there please???

waiting in anticipation (At last a bit of scandel  :o)
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kim
Parrish/Parish: Birmingham, Staffordshire, Shropshire.
Connections: Salt,  Gould,  Neath, Malpas(s), Cox, Jones, Pargeter,  Grainger, Greenaway, Bannister, Car(e)less, Broome, Dawes, Meese, Aga, Howard

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Re: How do i find what he did??
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 02 May 10 19:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Kim,

Staffordshire Quarterly sessions - 17 July 1841 (= after the census though)
John Parish - degree of instruction: well - age 22 - offence Manslaughter - sentence 1 month imprisonment

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Re: How do i find what he did??
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 May 10 19:57 BST (UK) »
Now i'm really intrigued..    Thank you Tati  :)
so he was there on census day awaiting sentencing??
How do you only get 1 month for manslaughter??
Is there any way of finding out any more details???

regards kim
Parrish/Parish: Birmingham, Staffordshire, Shropshire.
Connections: Salt,  Gould,  Neath, Malpas(s), Cox, Jones, Pargeter,  Grainger, Greenaway, Bannister, Car(e)less, Broome, Dawes, Meese, Aga, Howard

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Re: How do i find what he did??
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 May 10 20:08 BST (UK) »
Sorry, I can't help at all with your questions, I merely have access to the quarterly sessions transcription  :-\

There were 9 people convicted of manslaughter on the same day (maybe all to do with the same case?), sentences all between 1 month and 3 months.

Googling John Parish looks like a lost cause, doesn't it?  :P
Here are the names of the other people tried for manslaughter:
Isaiah Wright age 18, William Shakespeare age 24, Zachariah Jaques 23, Ralph Lovatt 21, Joseph Penn 26, Thomas Skidmore 34, James Hampton 27, John Harper 22 (not guilty). 
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Re: How do i find what he did??
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 May 10 20:15 BST (UK) »
Thank you tati you've been more than helpfull... maybe someone might read it who can tell me how to find out more...if there is a way  ???
none of those names rings a bell.. that many sounds to me like a pub brawl lol

kind regards
kim
Parrish/Parish: Birmingham, Staffordshire, Shropshire.
Connections: Salt,  Gould,  Neath, Malpas(s), Cox, Jones, Pargeter,  Grainger, Greenaway, Bannister, Car(e)less, Broome, Dawes, Meese, Aga, Howard

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Re: How do i find what he did??
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 May 10 20:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Kim

If they were all sentenced as a group for the same offence I would think it might have been written up in a newspaper somewhere.  Have you tried the 19th century British Library collection by ppv online or free at your local library?

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Re: How do i find what he did??
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 02 May 10 20:42 BST (UK) »
i've just looked at 19th century british newspapers, library online.. but its not throwing anything up??
try get to library next week..I only found him today...
thanks heather
Parrish/Parish: Birmingham, Staffordshire, Shropshire.
Connections: Salt,  Gould,  Neath, Malpas(s), Cox, Jones, Pargeter,  Grainger, Greenaway, Bannister, Car(e)less, Broome, Dawes, Meese, Aga, Howard

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Re: How do i find what he did??
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 02 May 10 20:50 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Tati on Sunday 02 May 10 20:08 BST (UK)

Here are the names of the other people tried for manslaughter:
Isaiah Wright age 18, William Shakespeare age 24, Zachariah Jaques 23, Ralph Lovatt 21, Joseph Penn 26, Thomas Skidmore 34, James Hampton 27, John Harper 22 (not guilty). 


(As an aside, one of those names is of my ex ... but a little before his time !   Made me laugh out loud tho' !!)

One month for manslaughter seems extraordinarily lenient, when you think that men could be transported for seven years for stealing a sack of flour !
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Re: How do i find what he did??
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 02 May 10 20:53 BST (UK) »
lol lydart...
does seem a little lenient...very intriguing  ???
Parrish/Parish: Birmingham, Staffordshire, Shropshire.
Connections: Salt,  Gould,  Neath, Malpas(s), Cox, Jones, Pargeter,  Grainger, Greenaway, Bannister, Car(e)less, Broome, Dawes, Meese, Aga, Howard
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