John Fidge

[geniecolgan]

There's are marriages registered,

John Fidge (Jun Q., 1842,Leeds, 23, 206) Rebecca Chapman is on the same page and
George Hill Fidge to Elizabeth Clark on the same page (Sep Q. 1876, Barnstaple, 5b, 841)

[tressle]

So this is wife Elizabeth in 1881

16 Chapel Row, Alverstoke, Hampshire

Elizabeth Fidge 28 down as Mariners Wife born Gosport.
Florence Fidge   1
James Clark   24 Brother
Joseph Clark   26 Brother
Richard Clark   22 Brother

Class: RG11; Piece: 1165; Folio: 96; Page: 9


Here in 1891 Class: RG12; Piece: 880; Folio 17; Page 27


MODIFYING

This is on the National Archives Site

George Fidge
Born: 17th January 1845
Enlistment Date: 17 March 1873
Royal Marine Light Infantry: Portsmouth Division
Service Number: 550

Have you already downloaded these? Is that where the information about birth place and Father's name came from?

Tressle

[CaroleW]

He is on the 1841 and 1851 census

We might have the wrong George Fidge.My George was living in Portsmouth   with his wife Elizabeth nee Clark and serving in the RMA. He joined in 1873 and retired 1894 on health grounds he died in 1916. Would it be unusual for a man to go from a  clerk to a career soldier?

I very much doubt there were 2 people with the name George Christopher Fidge who were both born 1843 in Manchester and who both had a father called John who was in the first Royal Dragoons

You told us that John Fidge was born Maidstone Kent, was married to Rebecca and was in the 1st Royal Dragoons

In that case - there is no doubt whatsoever that the info given re: his son George Christopher Fidge is completely correct.

If this is NOT your George Fidge - then the info you gave re: his parents is incorrect.

1851 census for Radford Notts shows the family as follows

John Fidge 34 1st Royal Dragoons b Maidstone Kent
Rebecca   35 b Suffolk
George   7 b Manchester
Eliza   3 b Ireland
HO107 Piece 2129 Folio 169 Page 44

From my reply above

Births June qtr 1843 

George Christopher Fidge     Chorlton  20 262 or 263   

Marriages September qtr 1865 

George Christopher Fidge    Bishop Stortford  3a 325   
Emma Norris     

1871 census for London Islington

George C Fidge 27 bank clerk b Manchester
Emma   38 b Hertford
Emily Saban 17 servant b Sawbridgeworth
RG10 Piece 295 Folio 98 Page 58

Deaths September qtr 1880   
 
Emma Fidge aged 46  Islington  1b 258

Hence George Christopher Fidge's second marriage to Elizabeth Haycock on 3.9.1881 in which he is shown as a widower occ "gentleman"  Father John is also shown as a "gentleman"

Elizabeth was a widow but her fathers name is shown as Archibald Reed - not Clark

 


 

[CaroleW]

George appears to be George HILL Fidge and the 1901 census shows him b Maidstone Kent

Marriages September qtr 1876   
 
George Hill Fidge/Elizabeth Clark   Barnstaple  5b 841

Do you have a copy of his marriage cert confirming his fathers name and occupation as I cannot find another entry on any census between 1851-1891

[happydi]

Oh Dear, I have my tree growing in the wrong direction! I have George and Elizabeth Abigail living in Alverstoke, Gosport in 1891 with their daughters,one being my Grandmother Ethel May Fidge.  We'll get there!

Thanks for the help it means  a lot to me and my dear old Mum who is 95.

Best Wishes
Di

[happydi]

I don't have the marriage certificate although I did send for George's birth certificate but my $ were refunded from the National Archives I guess they were not easy to read.
Di

[CaroleW]

Hi

There is no birth reg for a George Hill Fidge - but there is this one

Births December qtr 1844 
 
George Fidge     Maidstone  5 317

As I said in my pm - I have a sneaking suspicion he was illegitimate

[tressle]

I've got a little confused 

Is it the George (Hill) Fidge married to Elizabeth which is the correct one?.

I think Ethel's birth certificate is needed just to make sure.

I like Carol think that George could be illegitmate.  The birth date given on the National Archives service papers was 17th January 1845 which is after the registration of the George Fidge Dec 1844.  So either George was not sure of his correct birthdate or the registration is not him.

Only sending for it will answer the question though.

Tressle 

[happydi]

Poor George! I'm sure he was married to Elizabeth Abigail born in Alverstoke.I sopke to my old Mum and she remembers all the aunts...Evaline, Ella Grace etc. Grandma was born in 1888.The marriage date I have for George is 27th Sept 1873.
I see you are in Bury my paternal Grandmother was from there they were Entwistles.. oh here I go on a tangent 
Di