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Re: John B HELSDON & Adeliza/Adelina STEWART QLD
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 11 May 10 02:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Leanne,

Many thanks for your interest :)

The person this child is buried with is Adeliza's son, Victor Stewart Helsdon b12/10/1888. He married Charlotte Leftwich in 1911, so am suprised his birth date was unknown.

Ambers

It  may not have been supplied to the funeral directors for what ever reason?

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Re: John B HELSDON & Adeliza/Adelina STEWART QLD
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 11 May 10 02:28 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help me trace the wife of Captain/Pilot: John Benjamin Helsdon b 1850 Norfolk......Adeliza/Adelina Stewart b1864 Australia,.
Her parents were John Stewart and Margaret Fraser from Glasgow, they Emigrated in 1862 on the Sultana.

I can't find any death or Shipping records in that name, and the last sighting of her was in the Brisbane Courier 26/10/1892.
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After that she dis-appears.  ???
Ambers

Unless Adeliza lived to c80 years ....... are you able to identify this Mrs HELSDON of the Spiritual Resource Centre who was advertising her Lecture and Flower Reading in Brisbane in 1929?
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/21431406?searchTerm=heldson

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Re: John B HELSDON & Adeliza/Adelina STEWART QLD
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 11 May 10 02:30 BST (UK) »
I can't thank you enough for matching all the marriages etc up for me :)

I have found that Victor Stewart Helsdon's wife Charlotte Leftwich died in 1912.

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No death year for Charlotte found, so the above is incorrect.
Birth of daughter to them, Davida Joyce Helsdon in 1913.
GLAMORGAN: Evans. Davies. Eddy. Bradnum.
GLAM to USA:Walter H Davies 1886.Thomas J 1852
PEMBROKE: Bradnum.Summers
CARMARTHENSHIRE:Davies. Jones
NORFOLK/SUFFOLK: Bradnum.Cork.Helsdon 3 in Australia, Whiskins. Fairhead.Catchpole.
DEVON:Mallett. Acford, Kidston.Short.Lover.Edwards,Telford.Sparrow
SOMERSET: Masey
CORNWALL:Eddy.Thomas Maddern.Harvey. Noy.Reynolds,Batten,Curtis.
Cornwall to USA: Thomas, Semmens. Oats
Warwickshire: Mountney

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Re: John B HELSDON & Adeliza/Adelina STEWART QLD
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 11 May 10 02:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Cando,

I noted her in the Newspaper advertisments too, and wondered. ???

Not once did they give her first intial, >:( ,in the later years a Mr Helsdon appears at the same meetings. As the first Helsdons in Australia started from my relative John B, they are family for certain.

Adeliza has been referred to  as slighlty mad through family gossip. I  think people who attended or took part in Spiritualist Meetings might have been viewed that way. I tried to follow through on it,  she was a Committee member, gleamed from the account of the first ever annual meeting they had.

I got no further.

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GLAMORGAN: Evans. Davies. Eddy. Bradnum.
GLAM to USA:Walter H Davies 1886.Thomas J 1852
PEMBROKE: Bradnum.Summers
CARMARTHENSHIRE:Davies. Jones
NORFOLK/SUFFOLK: Bradnum.Cork.Helsdon 3 in Australia, Whiskins. Fairhead.Catchpole.
DEVON:Mallett. Acford, Kidston.Short.Lover.Edwards,Telford.Sparrow
SOMERSET: Masey
CORNWALL:Eddy.Thomas Maddern.Harvey. Noy.Reynolds,Batten,Curtis.
Cornwall to USA: Thomas, Semmens. Oats
Warwickshire: Mountney


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Re: John B HELSDON & Adeliza/Adelina STEWART QLD
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 11 May 10 02:42 BST (UK) »
The unfortunate thing with the online QLD Bdm's is that you cannot do a search just using  the parents names without a surname which I can do with the Pioneer index for Qld.

It is possible she remarried after 1934.

I have checked out other states to the best of my resources but cannot locate her.

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SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
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HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
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Re: John B HELSDON & Adeliza/Adelina STEWART QLD
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 11 May 10 03:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Jenn,

Many thanks for trying other states for me. :)

I have found it a problem not being able to search by first name,  I think I got timed out because I was giving to wide a span of years when there were many with that surname...I am learning. ::)

Her eldest daughter had no bad words to say about her mother, unlike what the children felt about their father...he was very unkind to all of them :'(.
John married Adelzia when she was just seventeen, him being thirty and a man of the world :o she did not have an easy life with him at all. She had many beatings from him during those years...and you can't help but worry about what happened to her in the end after she issued that Writ against him.

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GLAMORGAN: Evans. Davies. Eddy. Bradnum.
GLAM to USA:Walter H Davies 1886.Thomas J 1852
PEMBROKE: Bradnum.Summers
CARMARTHENSHIRE:Davies. Jones
NORFOLK/SUFFOLK: Bradnum.Cork.Helsdon 3 in Australia, Whiskins. Fairhead.Catchpole.
DEVON:Mallett. Acford, Kidston.Short.Lover.Edwards,Telford.Sparrow
SOMERSET: Masey
CORNWALL:Eddy.Thomas Maddern.Harvey. Noy.Reynolds,Batten,Curtis.
Cornwall to USA: Thomas, Semmens. Oats
Warwickshire: Mountney

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Re: John B HELSDON & Adeliza/Adelina STEWART QLD
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 11 May 10 03:07 BST (UK) »
I have just had an email from my cousin....she reads the Thread here, and I am trying to get her to join ;D

She thinks this is the wife of another Helsdon man, Louis/Lewis as her mother has since mentioned it to her.

I did so hope it was going to be Adelzia. :(

Ambers
GLAMORGAN: Evans. Davies. Eddy. Bradnum.
GLAM to USA:Walter H Davies 1886.Thomas J 1852
PEMBROKE: Bradnum.Summers
CARMARTHENSHIRE:Davies. Jones
NORFOLK/SUFFOLK: Bradnum.Cork.Helsdon 3 in Australia, Whiskins. Fairhead.Catchpole.
DEVON:Mallett. Acford, Kidston.Short.Lover.Edwards,Telford.Sparrow
SOMERSET: Masey
CORNWALL:Eddy.Thomas Maddern.Harvey. Noy.Reynolds,Batten,Curtis.
Cornwall to USA: Thomas, Semmens. Oats
Warwickshire: Mountney

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Re: John B HELSDON & Adeliza/Adelina STEWART QLD
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 11 May 10 03:13 BST (UK) »
So did I :)

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Re: John B HELSDON & Adeliza/Adelina STEWART QLD
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 11 May 10 07:44 BST (UK) »
oh well back to the old drwaing board again

Jenn
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SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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