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Emigration of Richard Harding BUTLER and wife Harriet abt 1855.
« on: Monday 10 May 10 18:56 BST (UK) »
I have a Richard Harding Butler, b1829 in Dublin, Ireland, and wife Harriet nee Pender b1830 in Falmouth, Cornwall.   They emigrated to Australia somewhere between their marriage in Liverpool in 1852 and the birth of their first child in 1856.

They had five children born in Australia:   
                     Richard Pender Butler b1856 Victoria
                     Harriet Harding Butler b1858 Beechworth
                     John James Butler b1859 Beechworth
                     Peter Duncan Butler b1861 Beechworth
                     Annie J Butler b1863 Beechworth

By the birth of their sixth child in 1866 they were back in Liverpool. 

I believe that father Richard Harding Butler was a greengrocer at some point in his life.  I have no idea why they went to Australia, except perhaps to find a better life, or when or why they returned to England ??? 

Also, can anyone tell me where Beechworth is ???

Can anyone help me please?
Adams - Berkshire
Bell - Berkshire
Forrest - Ellon Aberdeenshire, Govan Glasgow
Hendry - Aberdeenshire
Jerrett - Devon, Lancashire
McMillan - Belfast Ireland, Govan Glasgow
MacMillan - Vancouver Canada
Thornley - Warwickshire
Wernham - Chieveley Berkshire

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Re: Emigration of Richard Harding Butler and wife Harriet abt 1855.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 10 May 10 19:22 BST (UK) »
Beechworth appears to be in Victoria as the 1871 census has Victoria as the birthplace for the children

They were at 23 Park Rd Toxteth Park Liverpool and Richard is shown as a grocer and provisions dealer

No daughter Annie in 1871 but 2 children b Liverpool Ada C aged 5 and Minnie E aged 3  RG10 Piece 3796 Folio 113 Page 26

A Jean Rolfe has notified a transcription error in November 2009 - is she known to you?
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Re: Emigration of Richard Harding Butler and wife Harriet abt 1855.
« Reply #2 on: Monday 10 May 10 19:36 BST (UK) »
Hi CaroleW

Thanks for that. 

Yes, that is the Richard and those are the remaining two children, both born in Liverpool.   Annie was born in Beechworth, but maybe she died as an infant ???

This is my husband's side of the family.   He says the surname Rolfe, rings a vague bell, but that's all.

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Adams - Berkshire
Bell - Berkshire
Forrest - Ellon Aberdeenshire, Govan Glasgow
Hendry - Aberdeenshire
Jerrett - Devon, Lancashire
McMillan - Belfast Ireland, Govan Glasgow
MacMillan - Vancouver Canada
Thornley - Warwickshire
Wernham - Chieveley Berkshire

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Re: Emigration of Richard Harding BUTLER and wife Harriet abt 1855.
« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 May 10 22:24 BST (UK) »
If you are a member of Ancestry - you can send her an email in case she may have more info for you

Let me know as I can do it for you if you don't have a subscription
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Re: Emigration of Richard Harding BUTLER and wife Harriet abt 1855.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 11 May 10 00:10 BST (UK) »
Hi SamnJoan,
You asked in your first post where Beechworth was.......well, it is in Victoria and was a Goldfields destination.....here is a website that might give you some information
http://www.beechworth.com/history_preserved/the_goldfields.html

Lots of families from all over the world travelled to the Australian goldfields in the hope of making their fortune (two of mine certainly did....although the fortune eluded them  ;D)....maybe your husband's family was one of them.

Have you checked the Victorian Births deaths and marriages for Annie's death?
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=getHistIdxSearchCriteria

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Hutton : Edinburgh, Scotland
Downey : England
Ingram: St George East, Middlesex and New Zealand
Roberts : Grafton, NSW
Blackadder : Grafton, NSW
Gillett : Grafton, NSW
Brocklebank :Carkettle, Lancashire
Bowes : Ulverston, Lancashire
Rose : Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire, Scotland
Kelleher:County Cork, Ireland
Shepherd : Helpringham, Lincolnshire

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Re: Emigration of Richard Harding BUTLER and wife Harriet abt 1855.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 11 May 10 00:32 BST (UK) »
Another child for Richard Harding BUTLER and Harriet (nee PENDER)

Birth Charles Moss BUTLER, father Richard Hardin, mother Harriet PENDER, birth place CHIL (possibly Chiltern, near Beechworth) in 1864

Australia -(Victorian Births,Deaths,Marriages - Reg no. 9046)

Added this although you already have her birth, it shows her second 'Christian' name and being born at Chiltern, same as Charles

Birth Annie Jane BUTLER, father Richard Hardin, mother Harriet PENDER, birth place CHIL (Chiltern) 1862  Victorian BDM reg no. 15024.

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Re: Emigration of Richard Harding BUTLER and wife Harriet abt 1855.
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 11 May 10 00:40 BST (UK) »
Deaths

Charles Moss Butler aged 4 March qtr 1868  West Derby 8b  285
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Re: Emigration of Richard Harding BUTLER and wife Harriet abt 1855.
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 11 May 10 00:53 BST (UK) »
Births in Victoria

BUTLER Richard Pender
]Father Richard  Mother Harriett PENDER
At Woolshed  1856  Reg# 2982

BUTLER Harriet Harding
Father Richard Harding  Mother Harriet PENDER
At  Beechworth   1857  Reg#7888

BUTLER John James
Father Richardd  Mother Harriett PENDER
At Woolshed  1859  Reg#4862

BUTLER Peter Duncan
Father Richard Mother Harriet PENDER
At Indi  1860 Reg#10834

BUTLER Annie Jane
Father Richard Hardin Mother Harriet PENDER
At Chiltern 1862  Reg#15204
 
BUTLER Charles Moss
Father Richard Hardin  Mother Harriet PENDER
At Chiltern  1864  Reg#9046

Search here to see the places in relation to Beechworth.
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?hl=en&tab=wl

If Richard had been mining gold in the area, he may have decided to return to England as the gold boom finished.

Any of the above birth certificates will detail Richard's occupation.  You can purchase online an image of certs and immediately download for AUD $17.50.
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage

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Re: Emigration of Richard Harding BUTLER and wife Harriet abt 1855.
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 11 May 10 01:11 BST (UK) »
Outward passengers from Victoria on the TRUE BRITON May 1864 to London
 
BUTLER Infant
BUTLER Mrs  34 years   
BUTLER Annie 4 years
BUTLER Harriett 7years   
BUTLER John J 5 years
BUTLER Peter 2 years   
BUTLER RD  8 years   
BUTLER Mr RD  35 years

You can check for Annie's death in England between 3/4 in 1864 and 1/4 1871 unless of course she died at sea.

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