Author Topic: Charlotte POWELL, born c. 1801 [Middx]  (Read 14771 times)

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Re: Charlotte POWELL, born c. 1801 [Middx]
« Reply #54 on: Wednesday 12 May 10 21:09 BST (UK) »
Hi

Civil registration began 1st July 1837 which is when certificates were issued. Before that there were only parish registers.

This webpage gives you information on an examples of marriage registers between 1754-1st July 1837.

http://www.british-genealogy.com/resources/registers/7marpre1837.htm

Pallot's marriage index is a series of marriages indexed on small cards/slips. Thomas Powell and Charlotte Willoughby's card/slip is number 61. The next Thomas Powell card, a marriage to an interestingly named female Humphrey Fraser is card/slip 113. Pallots nearly always wrote out two cards/slips so a hand search under either name would find a card/slip. Both cards/slips in this case are numbered 61.


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Re: Charlotte POWELL, born c. 1801 [Middx]
« Reply #55 on: Wednesday 12 May 10 21:29 BST (UK) »
Hi

Civil registration began 1st July 1837 which is when certificates were issued. Before that there were only parish registers.

This webpage gives you information on an examples of marriage registers between 1754-1st July 1837.

http://www.british-genealogy.com/resources/registers/7marpre1837.htm

Pallot's marriage index is a series of marriages indexed on small cards/slips. Thomas Powell and Charlotte Willoughby's card/slip is number 61. The next Thomas Powell card, a marriage to an interestingly named female Humphrey Fraser is card/slip 113. Pallots nearly always wrote out two cards/slips so a hand search under either name would find a card/slip. Both cards/slips in this case are numbered 61.


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Valda

Thanks Valda,

I note the page states that

" ~ parents names were not recorded, although they may be witnesses. It was fairly common for a brother or sister to be a witness, or friends, or the churchwardens".

So it's a 50:50 chance there may be parents' names included?

Ric
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Re: Charlotte POWELL, born c. 1801 [Middx]
« Reply #56 on: Wednesday 12 May 10 21:33 BST (UK) »
PS.  Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837

Name:Charlotte Willoughby
Spouse:Thos Powell


There will only be one certificate for this marriage won't there? When I looked up the date it seemed to show two different thumbnail images for the same marriage?

Ric
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Re: Charlotte POWELL, born c. 1801 [Middx]
« Reply #57 on: Thursday 13 May 10 00:39 BST (UK) »
Hi

Civil registration began 1st July 1837 which is when certificates were issued. Before that there were only parish registers.

This webpage gives you information on an examples of marriage registers between 1754-1st July 1837.

http://www.british-genealogy.com/resources/registers/7marpre1837.htm

Pallot's marriage index is a series of marriages indexed on small cards/slips. Thomas Powell and Charlotte Willoughby's card/slip is number 61. The next Thomas Powell card, a marriage to an interestingly named female Humphrey Fraser is card/slip 113. Pallots nearly always wrote out two cards/slips so a hand search under either name would find a card/slip. Both cards/slips in this case are numbered 61.


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Valda

Oops! I see what you mean ~

The Pallot's 1820 marriage record just gives the bare facts - 'POWELL Thos & Charlotte WILLOUGHBY, Hampstead' with 'x' by each name.

Have fielded the POWELL line on several forums so maybe someone will connect with what I already have, and supply some earlier links.

Many thanks to all for help :)

Ric
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Re: Charlotte POWELL, born c. 1801 [Middx]
« Reply #58 on: Thursday 13 May 10 02:05 BST (UK) »

Morning

There are a few likely WILLOUGHBY entries on the 1841 that might be useful.... emphasis on the LIKELY and MIGHT... no proof yet.. but it's worth noting and keeping in case...


1841 Census England Middlesex St John Hampstead
HO107/674/20/35
New End

WILLOUGHBY
Thomas 49 Greengrocer Born in County
Mary 48 Laundress Born in County
William 15 Born in County

Picked this one out because of the Charlotte...

1841 Census England Middlesex St James Clerkenwell St James
HO107/661/32/12
Clerkenwell Close

WILLOUGHBY
William 45 Storekeeper Born in County
Mary 40 Born in County
Charlotte 13 Born in County
William 7 Born in County

Cheers
Karenlee
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Re: Charlotte POWELL, born c. 1801 [Middx]
« Reply #59 on: Thursday 13 May 10 02:32 BST (UK) »

Morning

There are a few likely WILLOUGHBY entries on the 1841 that might be useful.... emphasis on the LIKELY and MIGHT... no proof yet.. but it's worth noting and keeping in case...


1841 Census England Middlesex St John Hampstead
HO107/674/20/35
New End

WILLOUGHBY
Thomas 49 Greengrocer Born in County
Mary 48 Laundress Born in County
William 15 Born in County

Picked this one out because of the Charlotte...

1841 Census England Middlesex St James Clerkenwell St James
HO107/661/32/12
Clerkenwell Close

WILLOUGHBY
William 45 Storekeeper Born in County
Mary 40 Born in County
Charlotte 13 Born in County
William 7 Born in County

Cheers
Karenlee

Thanks Karenlee,

I'm afraid I can't find these :-o

Am looking for a Thomas WILLOUGHBY (born abt 1792) and a William WILLOUGHBY born abt 1796 both in Middlesex?

Is there a way to use the 'HO107/661/32/12' type references to locate these censuses please?

Thanks again,

Ric
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Re: Charlotte POWELL, born c. 1801 [Middx]
« Reply #60 on: Thursday 13 May 10 02:41 BST (UK) »

Ric

Just use the reference numbers for each entry and you should get to the righ entry.  Or alternatively just enter the surname, county and birth year of 1800 +/- 5 years.

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Re: Charlotte POWELL, born c. 1801 [Middx]
« Reply #61 on: Thursday 13 May 10 03:03 BST (UK) »

Ric

Just use the reference numbers for each entry and you should get to the righ entry.  Or alternatively just enter the surname, county and birth year of 1800 +/- 5 years.

Karenlee

Thanks,

I put 'HO107/674/20/35' into the keyword search for the 1841 Census. It did not take me to WILLOUGHBY but curiously to CLOUSER which is the name of a witness to an 1883 INNELL/POWELL mariage certificate!

Sorry, I am still quite new to all this :-o

Ric
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Re: Charlotte POWELL, born c. 1801 [Middx]
« Reply #62 on: Thursday 13 May 10 03:28 BST (UK) »

That's okay Ric... I have sent you an email that I hope helps a bit.. if not just let me know and I'll get you sorted out... ;D
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