Children of John ALLEN (d 1929)and Mary ROGERS (d 1896), Wrexham.

[little alison]

John Allen and Mary Rogers had five children that we know of.
Harriet Julia    m William DAVIES
Emily    m Frank JONES
Albert   m Minnie JONES
Sarah Eleanor and Martha Margaret, we know something about. It's the Davies and the Joneses we have no idea of. They are pretty certainly local. Who were they?
(And why aren't they called Smith!!)

[maidmarion]

Hi
It may help to give some DOBs etc to make it easier for people to help you.

maidmarion

[little alison]

Sorry - a beginner's mistake, not enough info.

DOBs - John Allen, 1844 , Mary Allen 1842.
Harriet Julia     - 1871, m William Davies
Emily Florence - 1873, m Frank Jones
Albert John      - 1875, m Minnie Jones.
Sarah Eleanor - 1877
Martha Margaret - 1880.

We have this family census information, but no info on the spouses. The first four children were born in Brymbo, the last in Gwersyllt.

[maidmarion]

Hi little alison,
If you have the census and  marriage details could you post those too. More info the better please

[maidmarion]

Civil marr Wrexham Sep 1/4 1895
Harriet Julia Allen to William Davies

Civil marr Wrexham Sep 1/4 1896
Emily Florence  Allen to Frank Jones

1901 Hazel Grove, Gwersylt
RG13/5222/61/3.
Frank Jones head 30 house builder b.Gwersylt
Emily F. " wife 28 b.Broughton

[wilcoxon]

1901 RG13; Piece: 5222; Folio: 16; Page: 4.
Little Mountain, Gwersyllt
Harriet Julia Davies 30 m b Wrexham
Ethel Allen Davies 4  b "
Constance Maud Davies 2 b "
Ellenor Hughes 15 servant b "

As for the marriages you have , if they are Civil then you will have to pay for certificates. If they were in Church they could have been found.
By the way - I live about 10 mins walk from Little Mountain and Hazel Grove.

I can`t seem to locate William at all, all we know is that he worked at Wrexham and Acton Colliery Offices when he married , and he was the eldest  son of William Davies of Bryn Bennet, Broughton. It only mentions that Mrs and Master Davies were among guests  at the wedding breakfast ( mother and brother ).
  

Photo is of Beecroft
 

[little alison]

At last, a bit of info about Frank Jones. He's born 1871, and a builder. And Hazel Grove Gwersyllt. Good. a start to find some more. - thanks, Maidmarion.

Yes that's Harriet - but William must have been away?
Connie was my mother's cousin and went to Australia in 1948.
I tried looking up all the William Davieses locally but no luck.
Most of the family are in a very local area.

[wilcoxon]

You are not going to beleive this,  but I have in my hand a book written by Eleanor May Horton.  " The Spark still Glows"
She says her mother  is the youngest daughter of John Allen of Syddalt, once a farmer but later a builder.
Her name was Martha Margaret Allen and she married William James Jackson in July 1903. She lived at Beehive Villa which is the Gwersyllt Post Office.
The marriage of Harriet Julia Allen and William Davies took place at Gwersyllt Congregational Chapel.
If you live localy there is a copy of this book in Wrexham Museum.

[little alison]

You aren't going to believe this. May Horton was my mum!
Born Eleanor May Jackson, married Andrew Little, then Ted Horton.
I have the book and very useful it's been on the family history trail. (I live in Oxfordshire now).
Any one know more about the 'Beehive Stores and Post Office?
We don't even have the original photos she used in the book, although we have some of the others.

I have a further 'four generations' picture as in the front, but showing her as the oldest instead of the youngest!
Very nice to know it's there.