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Odiham Christening Lookup 1822 - Which Freeman parents?
« on: Thursday 13 May 10 13:00 BST (UK) »
Can someone please look up the following christening -

Harriet Freeman 6th January 1822 Odiham - Parents: Thomas and Diana Freeman

I am hoping Thomas is a mistranscription and the father is actually Francis.

In 1840 a Harriet Freeman marries Moses Sherred - her father on the certificate being Francis Freeman. In 1841 a Francis Freeman and wife Diana (of the right age to be her parents) are living next door to Moses and Harriet. However, there is also another Francis Freeman, of the correct age, in the area, with wife Lidia, so I am trying to work out which set of Freemans are her parents.

(on the marriage certificate her father's occupation is Labourer, which is the correct occupation for the one with wife Lidia, whereas the one living next door is a Sweep)  :-\

Thanks for any help
Regards
Cat
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Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Odiham Christening Lookup 1822 - Which Freeman parents?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 13 May 10 16:48 BST (UK) »
On the Knightsroot site, Hampshire Online Parish Clerk Project  gives......

6th January 1822 Harriett dau of Thomas and Diana FREEMAN of Odiham, Lab.
this information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk   London Hall, Thurston Stanley, Phillips, Ayrton, White, Morrish, Smith.    West Ham/Barking Saint,Briggs,   Essex  Barker,   Hampshire  Kill, Kent Spong,   U.S.A Earp, Scotland/Cumbria Templeton, Devon Morrish, Chudley

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Re: Odiham Christening Lookup 1822 - Which Freeman parents?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 13 May 10 18:30 BST (UK) »
If it is any help, they are living in the same house as Francis and Diana in 1841, not next door, so the odds are pretty high that they are her parents

These are the baptisms of the other children:
Parents: Francis & Diana,
FREEMAN, Job Baptised: 19 Apr 1818, Odiham
FREEMAN, William  Baptised: 21 Mar 1820, Odiham
FREEMAN, Stephen Baptised: 06 Jun 1824, Odiham
FREEMAN, Diana    Baptised: 19 Jul 1827, Odiham
FREEMAN, Kezia Baptised: 26 Jul 1829, Odiham
FREEMAN, Francis   Baptised: 15 Jun 1832, Odiham

Harriet may not have been baptised for some reason, or more likely, simply not entered in the register. Entries were not always done at the time, sometime they were written in as notebook to be entered at a later date,l leaving plenty of scope for errors and omissions.


I should have added, that the baptism you have is probably the right one, simply the wrong name entered for the father.

Jebber
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Odiham Christening Lookup 1822 - Which Freeman parents?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 13 May 10 18:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the replies, I feel better accepting Francis and Diana as parents now I've got second opinions!

Regards
Cat  :)
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Odiham Christening Lookup 1822 - Which Freeman parents?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 March 21 13:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi, just found your post.

Diana Freeman was a beneficiary of Job Bull's will dated 1845, little bit of confusion as to whether it was Diana wife of Francis, or her daughter.

I have lots of info on Diana Bull's family if you go down that route.

Amanda

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Re: Odiham Christening Lookup 1822 - Which Freeman parents?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 March 21 13:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi thanks for your message, this family is on my sons paternal side so I'd be interested in any further info you have
Thankyou
Catherine  :)
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov

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Re: Odiham Christening Lookup 1822 - Which Freeman parents?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 March 21 15:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Still digging around and found this so far...

I have a photocopy of the marriage register for Diana Bull and Francis Freeman. Odiham 1816 19th August.

Married by banns

Francis Freeman X
Diana Bull X

In presence of George Frankum X
                           Kezia Frankum X

Kezia was Diana's sister, George her second husband


Diana was one of 8 children of William and Rosamund Bull, chimney sweep. (Hannah, Stephen, Kezia, Jemima, Job, Luke, Kerenhappach and Diana)

William was son of Stephen and Anne Bull. Born Bradford on Avon about 1752, married Stratfield Saye 1771


Stephen born Bradford on Avon in 1730s, date not yet found, former soldier with Gen Skelton's Regiment of Foot

Razor and knife grinder in 1765 and 1776

Apprenticed to Joshua Woodward of Trowbridge? Or Bradford on Avon, broadloom weaver, but left after 4 years

Married Anne in Ludgate Chapel, City of London 1751

4 known children, William, Elizabeth, Catherine, Sarah


His father, possibly Paul Bull married to Catherine Gray 29 July 1733 in Bradford on Avon

Paul christened 2 June 1712 BOA, sister Miriam 1714 (might have married Jacob Bull, Broughton Giffard Wilts 1735 poss 9 children)

No further info on Paul at present.

Will let you know if I find any more.

Amanda,
Winchester, UK

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Re: Odiham Christening Lookup 1822 - Which Freeman parents?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 March 21 15:10 GMT (UK) »
Great info thankypu Amanda, are they your direct line too? Not found of my sons cousins on this side yet, I've read elsewhere that some of the ancestors on this side were Romany, do you have that info?
Thanks again
Catherine  :)
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov

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Re: Odiham Christening Lookup 1822 - Which Freeman parents?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 March 21 16:07 GMT (UK) »
Not direct, Diana Bull is my 4x great grand aunt, as described by family search

Yes. Travellers.

Kezia married two.
Stephen was travelling chimney sweep as were his children
Job was travelling chimney sweep, no children
Luke was travelling chimney sweep, his children marred Gregory, Ayres, Rampton, Hold, Gritt, Doe, Black

Romany and Traveller FHS is worth joining if you want to look further into these.

Diana's father was a traveller in that he was a knife and razor sharpener, but his family were weavers from Bradford on Avon