George Livock - Parents ?

[radiobird]

I am trying to trace the parents of my great grandfather George Livock.

My mother told me that he was given away shortly after birth (24th September, 1854, estimate re letters from Emily to her father) to a Mrs. Shearman (possible having the Christian name Mary or Ann or both).  While growing up he used her surname but later reverted to his own, Livock.  The first I can find of a George Livock, of about the right age, is in the 1871 Census at Wood Dalling, Norfolk page 4 and he was working as a Groom for Henry Ireland Jnr. (shown on page 3).  It lists his birthplace as Gunthripe Norfolk.

He married Emily Caroline Plane on 22nd December 1874 and 1876 they had triplets who didn’t survive 12 months.  They later had Gertrude Maud and Florence Sophia (my grandmother).  Emily died 3rd January 1880 in Nottingham and George left the 2 girls with their grandfather James Plane in Great Yarmouth and moved to Canada.

In Canada, George met Sarah Montgomery and they married on 2nd January, 1882 in York, Toronto where they had 5 children.  They moved to Rochester, New York where they had another daughter Beatrice.

Any help would be appreciated.

Radiobird

[Evie]

Hi radiobird

Welcome to Rootschat.

According to his marriage in Canada he names his parents as Robert and Harriet Livock and place of birth as Co Norfolk

Evie

Added: I also see he states Robert as his father on his marriage to Emily Plane

[welsh lady]

Hiya and welcome to Rootschat
I dont think the 1871 entry is correct because in 1861 that George born Gunthripe has parents John and Mary.
Evie found his parents names are Robert and Harriet

Heres a possible in 1851
Great Yarmouth,Norfolk
H0107 Piece 1806 Folio 502 Page 28
Robert Livock ,Head,39,Boot Closer?,Norwich,Norfolk
Harriet Livock,Wife,30,Yarmouth,Norfolk
Robert Livock,Son,10,Halisworth,Suffolk
Elizabeth Livock.Dau,5,Yarmouth,Norfolk
Mary Ann Livock,Dau,2,Yarmouth,Norfolk

1861 Budds Yard,St Mary at Coslany,Norwich,Norfolk
mistranscribed as Livick
RG9 Piece 1210 Folio 121 Page 5
Robert Livick,Head,50,Boot Closer?,Shotesham,Norfolk
Harriet Livick,Wife,37,Yarmouth,Norfolk
William Livick,Son,8,Yarmouth,Norfolk

Could William be William George age matches or another sibling?
Cant find George with a  Mrs Shearman as yet

Welsh Lady

[Evie]

Hi

Those census look good welsh lady I have a feeling William may be another sibling and his mother maybe couldn't cope with another young child

In the Canadian marriage and the US census George is a cabinet maker so possibly he is an apprentice joiner in 1871. Still cannot see Mrs Shearman yet either

Evie

[welsh lady]

Hiya Evie,Yes looks like the right family,Cant find George in 1871? And cant find a marriage as yet for Robert and Harriet?

Welsh Lady

[radiobird]

Thank you for your help.  I have just gone through the family bible again and Mary Ann Shearman died 27th March 1875 aged 46 years.

On the same page as this is written is the following:-

                    "George Livock"
             A gift from his affectionate Mother.

This looks to be written by the same person that noted Mary Shearmans death.

On FreeBMD it has Mary Ann Shearman listed dying June Qtr 1875 at Yarmouth, aged 47.

Radiobird

[Eyesee]

1881
District Great Yarmouth Workhouse
Robert LIVOCK, inmate widower 71, Cordwainer, born Shotisham, Norfolk
RG11/1915/85/19

From FreeBMD
Robert LIVOCK death, Sep qtr 1881, Henstead, 4b 117, age 69

Henstead RD covers Shotesham, so he may have died there.

Harriet would appear to have died either Sep qtr 1861 or Dec qtr 1862, as Robert appears to be married to a Hannah in 1871.

Ian C

[welsh lady]

I still cant find Robert and Harriets marriage ,Think it will help to find Harriets maiden name and Mary Ann Shearmans maiden name possibly related maybe  sisters as she gave her son to her ?

Welsh Lady