Ronquete family in Louisiana

[*Sandra*]

I wonder if there was 2 possible Manuel De Ben. 
The 1860 Census shows one age 33 years (so born 1827 Spain) - unfortunately no image for you to see on this link.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0b27/

This is what it says:- 1860 Algiers, Orleans, Louisiana

Manuel Deben 33 Born about 1827 Spain. grocer. Value of  real - estate $500 Value of personal estate $500
Joseph Abares 40 Born Spain Clerk
Ramon Cuberos 30 Born Spain. Labourer
Henry Rainer 48 Born Hanover. Labourer
John Stebbins 28 Born Bavaria. Labourer

Also found a US Tax Assessment List for 1863 for Manuel Deben - Retail dealer in liquor. That could be the grocer.,

Only 1 Manuel listed in US Civil War Soldiers and American Civil War Soldiers - which is the info you already have on the site above.

Can also see a Jose Deben enlisted as a private in the same - Company 2, Cazadores Esp Infantry Regiment Louisiana. (Wonder if that could be a brother of Manueal and Francis  ) but I have'nt seen a Francis listed.

Can also see a family tree Jose Manuel Deben born 1799 Spain  (no wife) which is giving the same 1840 Census record as a source. 2 children listed Joseph Jose Antonio Deben 1839 - 1900 and Manuel 1840 -
Jose Antonio Deben 1839 could be the one listed in US Civil War Soldiers - 5 Regiment European Brigade (Spanish Regiment), Louisiana Militia. The tree is a little mixed up with information.

Still looking. 

ADDED:- Have just quickly read through what we had before and the Jose Antonio Deben I mentioned above, we covered in reply 20.

[*Sandra*]

Have you ever come across reference to the "De Ben Tomb, Metairie Cem., New Orleans, La" 

I am quickly scanning through what we had before but don't think I've seen it mentioned but it looks as if that is where some of your De Ben family are buried.

[cimbrio]

No, no idea! Is that like a family plot?

I'm making myself a rough family tree to see where all the names fit; if you want to have a look at the tree I can send you via PVT message the link to my tree and that way you can jump from one name to another easily.

Jose Antonio de Ben (b.25/10/1839 in Noya, Spain) is the one that emigrated to LA in 1860. I know he fought in the war, we found that on this same thread. But no idea about the double Manuel thing, I'll keep on checking the tree, see where he fits in.

Gracias!

[*Sandra*]

Joseph Antonio Deben 1839 had a son John Salvador Deben born 1871. John S Deben married Marie L and they had a son Norman in 1909 (replies 37/39/40/41.

Norman married Anita Mary Hilary born 13 Nov 1910 New Orleans. They had 3 children. If you go to the link below it mentions the burial of Norman - De Ben tomb, Metairie Cem., New Orleans, La. The tree info was last worked on 15 Aug 2010 so the e-mail link to the contributor may still work.  Could be worth a try to contact Deben family 


http://www.rootschat.com/links/0b28/

ADDED Anita Mary Hillary/Deben Died : 1985 in New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana  Burial: De Ben tomb, Metairie Cem, New Orleans.

SSDI shows  - Anita Deben. Born: 20 Nov 1910 and Died: Aug 1985
Last Residence: 70118  New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana,.
SSN issued: Louisiana (Before 1951)

[*Sandra*]

Reference Norman Deben 1909 above who had a son Norman Joseph Deben Born: 22 Jan 1938 Died: 25 Sep 2003

The Obituiary for the son was in the Times PICAYUNE in September 2003 - perhaps you might be able to locate a copy of that also.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0b2b/

[cimbrio]

I've contacted the author of the family tree you pointed out before.

I haven't been able to find where to place the Manuel de Ben born in 1827; he may not be related for all I know. Hmm...

I remember seeing a sort of registration card for José Antonio de Ben (b.1839) when he faught in the civil war. Might there not be a similar thing for Manuel which might shed some light as to when he was born, and more importantly, where he came from? I am so anxious now to visit the church archives! I bet there are more relatives, though the question still remains, why did José Ventura de Ben and his sons emigrate to Louisiana? Emigration was very common in the region of Galicia right until well into the 20th century. But most people emigrated to Latin America because of the language barriers in the States. Why then would he go to Louisiana? I see it was very important for the family, since his nephew José Antonio followed in his uncle's footsteps, and another generation later Elías Ronquete emigrated to the same place as well...

[*Sandra*]

Hi Cimbrio,

It is another mystery at the moment -  they could well be -  one and the same - the age being slightly out and the occupation could well have changed. Census records only show one option for both 1850 and 1860 - tried a few spelling variations but nothing.
I've tried to look for more on the military history but cannot see anything else.
No trace of Jose or Francis after 1850 either.

Hit the proverbial brick wall I'm afraid. 

Regards
Sandra

[cimbrio]

Sandra, thanks very much for trying so hard anyway. Yes, Francis and José are a big mystery. They may have gone back to Spain for all I know, but Manuel may have stayed on and died during the war. I'm just guessing...

Are there no passenger manifestos to check passenger lists? The date of arrival may help to discover why they went to America in the first place.

I'll keep you posted if I find anything in the church archives in a couple of weeks.

Best regards,

CIMBRIO

[*Sandra*]

Sorry, forgot to say - I did try passenger lists but again there was absoloutely nothing showing.  Always a lack of passenger lists for the earlier time frame which is frustrating.  Hope you have better luck at the archives.

Saludos cordiales
Sandra