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Brynews Issa???
« on: Wednesday 02 June 10 04:15 BST (UK) »
Hi folks...On the BC of my husband's grandfather, it states that he was born at Brynews issa, St. Dogmells.  Is this a village or a farm???  His name was DAVID JAMES LADD, son of  WILLIAM LADD AND PHOEBE DAVIES, 1881.  Thanks
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Re: Brynews Issa???
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 June 10 04:37 BST (UK) »
Brynews is listed under Pant-y-groes, St Dogmaels:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/PEM/StDogmaels/

have you found them in 1881 or later Census records?
There's a Phoebe Davies at Longdown Bank, St Dogmells in 1881. Head of household, Mariner's wife
with daughter Amelia age 1 and Johnny age 2
RG11 5428/5 Page 4

but I can't find a William Ladd of the right age in that area...

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Re: Brynews Issa???
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 June 10 08:32 BST (UK) »
His name was DAVID JAMES LADD, son of  WILLIAM LADD AND PHOEBE DAVIES
Since there are only two David James Ladd born around the time of your interest those of David James Ladd Cardigan Reg District 4th Qtr 1872 and David James Ladd Cardigan Reg District 2nd Qtr 1881, for future reference the following may confirm your Ladd family are from Cardigan.
From my database of Military Headstones of Pembrokeshire and border parishes I note the following;
Cardigan Cemetery :
Pvte Walter Ll. Ladd 4th Welsh who was accidentally drowned in the River Tivy August 21 1916 aged 22 yrs.
Same headstone as the above
John Ladd died May 29 1920 aged 65 yrs also of Hannah Mary his wife died Jan 6 1928 Aged 67 yrs.
Lieut John Clifford Ladd R.N. Pilot Fleet Air Arm beloved son of Capt William Henry & Anne Mary Ladd of Adenwen Park Avenue Cardigan who lost his life whilst flying Sept 7 1953 aged 32 yrs.
Same headstone as above
William Henry Ladd died Nov 5 1956 aged 73 years also Annie Mary his wife ……………..
Also Cyril Ladd their eldest son……… died March 23 1985 at ……. Cardiff

A David J. Ladd is shown as aged 2 years the son of Mary A. Ladd a widow residing at Trewidwal St Dogmells in 1881

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Re: Brynews Issa???
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 02 June 10 08:34 BST (UK) »
Here they are in 1881 at the same address on birth cert
St Dogmells
RG11 Piece 5428 Folio 33 Page 5
William Ladd,Head,33,Farmer of 7 acres,St Dogmells
Phoebe Ladd,wife,25,St Dogmells
Thomas Ladd,son,5,St Dogmells
John Ladd,son,3,St Dogmells
Martha Ladd,Dau,2,St Dogmells
David Ladd,son,1m,St Dogmells

Marriage
Qtr Dec 1876
William Ladd to Phoebe Davies  in Cardigan vol 11b page 39

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Re: Brynews Issa???
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 02 June 10 09:10 BST (UK) »
This looks like another generation back William with his parents
1861 Trewidwal.St Dogmells
RG9 Piece 4176 Folio 65 Page 27

David Ladd,Head,45,Farmer,Bridell,Pembs
Mary Ann Ladd,Wife,34,Fishguard,Pembs
William Ladd,son,13,St Dogmells
David Ladd,son,11,St Dogmells
Hanna ? Ladd,dau,9,St Dogmells
John Ladd,son,7,St Dogmells
Martha Ladd,dau,5,St Dogmells
Llewellyn Ladd,son,3,St Dogmells
Charles Ladd,son,1,St Dogmells
and 4 servants

Marriage
David Ladd to Mary Ann Griffiths Qtr Mar 1846 in Cardigan vol 27 Page 76

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Re: Brynews Issa???
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 June 10 09:33 BST (UK) »
1851 Trewidwal,St Dogmells
HO1O7 Piece 2481 Folio 372 Page 40
David Ladd,Head,37,Farmer of 77? acres,LLanfairnantgwyn,Pembs
Mary Ann Ladd.Wife,24,Fishguard,Pembs
Rachel Ladd,Dau.5,St Dogmells
William Ladd,Son,3,St Dogmells
David Ladd,son,1,St Dogmells
and 3 servants

1841
Trewidwal.St Dogmells
HO107 Piece  1446 Book 4
William Ladd,55,Farmer
David Ladd,25

Another generation back Looks like Davids Father is William this can be confirmed by purchasing Davids marriage cert to Mary Ann.

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Re: Brynews Issa???
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 02 June 10 12:25 BST (UK) »
Pigot and Co Directory South Wales (Cardigan and St Dogmells) 1830

Carriers
William Ladd to Carmarthen from the market every Thursday

Pigot and co Cardigan ,St Dogmells South Wales 1844
Possible brothers of David Ladd b-1814  or relations ?

Carpenter and Joiner
John Ladd,Pwll Bay

Saddler and Harness Maker
Richard Ladd,Quay St

Tailor
Thomas Ladd,Pool bay

Welsh Lady
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Amor/Amer-Bromham Wiltshire,Hertfordshire,Suffolk.
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Wolfenden-Cambridgeshire,Huntingdonshire
Bird,Nash-Essex.
Anderson,-London.Bethnal Green,Shoreditch,Hackney
King-,Uxbridge,Shoreditch,Bethnal Green
Edwards,Roberts,Lane,Price,Williams-Llanelli.
Roberts-Pembroke Dock

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Re: Brynews Issa???
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 02 June 10 12:43 BST (UK) »
Heres the marriage of a sibling of David b-about 1814 and and son of William,or is it William himself remarrying?

24th April 1849 St Nicholas,Monington,Pembs
William Ladd
Widower
Abode-Trewidwal
Occ-Farmer
Father-William Ladd,Farmer
to
Margaret Jenkins
Spinster
Occ-Servant
Father-Thomas Jenkins,Lab
Witnesses-Benjamin James,James James
Both of full age

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Amor/Amer-Bromham Wiltshire,Hertfordshire,Suffolk.
Pyett-Suffolk
Wolfenden-Cambridgeshire,Huntingdonshire
Bird,Nash-Essex.
Anderson,-London.Bethnal Green,Shoreditch,Hackney
King-,Uxbridge,Shoreditch,Bethnal Green
Edwards,Roberts,Lane,Price,Williams-Llanelli.
Roberts-Pembroke Dock