Ruabon Parish Hannaby

[Morganllan]

Hello

I wonder whether anyone can help me find a connection between 2 John Hanaby/Hannaby families in the Rhos/Johnstown areas please?

First John Hannaby was born around 1823, and married Sarah Price in Ruabon district in 1848. they had 2 sons John and Thomas before Sarah died. John remarried Mary Roberts in 1861 and went on to have several more children.

The other John Hannaby was born in 1819 and married Hannah  Jones at St Mary’s Church, Ruabon in 1842. Their children were:
Joseph born 1847 married Ann Morgan in 1872.
Daniel born 1849 but died 1856
John born 1853

I wonder whether John 1823 and John 1819 could be related, maybe cousins?

Many thanks
Morgan

[wilcoxon]

I guess the easiest way would to check the marriages for the fathers names and work back from there.
Both took place at the same  Church, St Mary`s Ruabon.
North Wales BMD.

[Gadget]

Hi Morgan

Received your PM about this 

Just turned up one John Hannaby~

Ruabon Baptism:

27 June 1819 John s/o Joseph Hannaby (collier) and Mary. Living Rhos. Joseph is also recorded as his father in his marriage to Hannah in 1842.

This is the only  Hannaby baptisms in the parish registers 1893-1853.

Joseph's marriage to Mary:

25 Dec 1815 Joseph Hannabe and Mary Bellis. Both otp. Both made their mark. Witnesses William Jones and Sarah Edwards.

No other Hannaby/variation marriages that I can see in the first half of the 19th century.  I'll check the earlier register entries and also burials  and get back if I find anything.


Gadget

It might be that the families were non-conformist and thus might appear in the Blackwell Index. I think William and Heather both have copies.

[Gadget]

Hi again

I've just checked this site:

http://www.namesfromclwyd.org.uk/


and see that there were Hannaby/variations in Wrexham, Gresford, Holywell, Halkin, St Asaph, Minera, Llandelgla, Connah's Quay and Caerwys, in addition to those in  Ruabon and the later Rhos registers.

Joseph and John seem to be mentioned in Wrexham as well  so it might be worth finding someone who has access to those registers.


Gadget 

[Gadget]

 

This might give you something to go on - I've found another marriage ~

Ruabon 27 January 1810  William Hannaby to Ann Williams . Both otp and both made their mark. Witnesses John Davies and Ann Taylor

[Gadget]

and a burial:

Ruabon 27 May 1817 Sarah Hannabe, infant, of Morton  Above

[Gadget]

I think this might well be Joseph on the 1851:

HO107/2503/323/27
Rhos

Hannaby
Joseph, hd, widower, 54, collier, b. Brymbo
Josiah, son, unm, 27, b. Brymbo
Mary Edwards, 19, servant, b. Ruabon

[Gadget]

his family looks interesting - also 1851:

HO107/2503/303/47
Rhos

Hanaby
Thomas, hd, m, 50, Coal miner, b. Wrexham
Ann, wife, 63
Sarah, d, 19, ? at home
Elizabeth, d, 16, house servant
Robert, s, 13, coal miner
Edward, s, 11, coal miner

All but Thomas b. Ruabon

Did the second John name any of his children with these names?

[Gadget]

Just going through the Hannaby/variations households  in Denbighshire for the 1851 in addition to the ones above:

Samuel - HO107/2503/262/54

John - HO107/2503/819/7

and your John b. 1818/1891