Monmore Green Primitive Methodist & High Street Primative

[foggyjano]

I have found on free reg a possible baptism at Monmore Green Primitive Methodist for one of my ancestors

Emma Thomas 21st April 1864 parents William Thomas Occupation Miner and Mother Lusey

The spelling of the mother has thrown me as I have her named as Lucy.. Does anyone have a copy of the baptism records for Monmore Green Primitive Methodist if it would give any more info..

Her brother Allen Thomas was baptised at High Street Primitive Bilston 20 april 1869

Were these two churches the same type as in Non Confirmists?

Many thanks Jan

[locksmith]

Hi Jan,

The 2 churches you mention were both Primitive Methodist Chapels. The Primitive Methodists were a breakaway from the Wesleyan Methodists in the early 1800s. As such they would be described as Non Conformist.

Simon

[foggyjano]

thanks for explaining that to me....

[Friendly farmer]

My Grandmother was Sarah Kilner. Her parents were Richard Cullis and Emma Thomas. They were married in Dec 1880. Emma was 18. Her father was William Thomas, collier. I now believe her Mother was Lucy. They were originally from Bilston. But I believe they came from Montgomery.
Sarah married my Grandfather James Kilner in 1905.
Two members of the Kilner family, Peter and Samuel were killed in the Clifton Hall colliery explosion in 1885. My Father,Benjamin always said his Grandmother was Welsh. Slowly I am piecing things together.

[Capetown]

GRO Index

THOMAS Emma, mother's maiden name: PEARSON

GRO Reference : 1864 J Quarter WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 467

Which would make Emma 16 years of age on her marriage, not 18

1871 Census, Staffordshire, Bilston

6 Nabau ? Bl Lane

THOMAS

William - 39 - Miner/Coal, born Wales
Lucy - 31 born Staffs, Bilston
John - 12
Emma - 7
William - 4
Allen - 2
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Members Tree on Ancestry for the above family which has this transcription

29 September 1862
All Saints Church, Moxley, Staffordshire, England

William THOMAS, 22, bachelor, miner, of Bilston, and
Lucy THOMAS, 22 (WIDOW) of Bilston

Groom's father: Richard THOMAS, labourer
Bride's father : Joseph PEARSON, ballfurnaceman.

Witnesses: Noal ROGERS and Maria PEARSON


This tree then has a link to the 1851 census.

[Capetown]

1851 Census, Bilston
Wolverhampton Street

THOMAS

Richard - 35 - Stone Miner - born (Ancestry transcribed as N, Llancherma)
Mary - wife - 36 - born Salop, Westbury
Edwin GRIFFITHS - Son-in-law 15, Stone Miner (this appears to be Mary's children 1st marriage) - born Salop, Stapleton
Sarah GRIFFITHS - dau-in-law 14 - born as above
Richard GRIFFITHS - son-in-law 11 Coal Miner - born Lan ?
Samuel GRIFFITHS - son-in-law 8
William THOMAS son - 10 Day Scholar
Hannah THOMAS - dau - 7 Day Scholar
Richard THOMAS - son 3?

[Capetown]

Here is the baptism of a

Edwin GRIFFITHS - birth date 3 August 1833, baptism date: 7 July 1836

Saint Chad, Shrewsbury, Shropshire.

father: William GRIFFITHS and Maria

: William GRIFFITHS married Maria SMITH - 10 January 1833, Saint Chad, Shrewsbury.

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1841 Census, Shrewsbury St Chad

St John's Hill

next door to a Henry DAVIES

listed is a Rebecca GRIFFITHS - 75 - Ind. all born in County
Maria GRIFFITHS aged 30 - Ind
Edwin GRIFFITHS - 6
William GRIFFITHS - 4

Not sure if this is correct, as I can't see Sarah GRIFFITHS aged 14/Richard GRIFFITHS aged 11  who are  on the 1851 census,