Liverpool Maritime Museum

[moya72]

Researching Liverpool Pilot William Daniels, circa 1838.  The archives at the museum have a file no:-MDHB/MP/14/1-11, containing Pilot's character books 1788-1974,  Register of Pilots children 1814-1905  and register of deceased pilots children & widows.  I believe William married twice, the second time to Jane in about 1830.  I do not know the name of his first wife but two sons of that marriage were John & William.  Would appreciate any help.  Thankyou.  Moya

[Yorkslass]

Hello Moya,

I don't know whether you've seen it, but the Lancashire OPC site has a record of four children baptised at St Peter Liverpool by William Daniels and Maria - between 1819 and 1825 - each of the baptisms shows fathers occupation as pilot.

A later entry shows a baptism of Susanna Daniels, in 1844, child of William Daniels and Jane, again father's occupation is pilot.

Yorkslass

[moya72]

Hello Yorkslass.  Thankyou so much for the information, it solved a problem with two Williams, obviously the one born in 1822 died as child. I have found a marriage in 1817 to Maria Hughes, this must have been the first wife.  The second wife was Jane she came from Dover but I have been unable to find a birth or marriage for her. I found the other children to the second marriage, two of them on OPC and William was still listed as Pilot.  When his eldest son John from his first marriage got married in 1838 he is recorded as Pilot on the marriage certificate. Your help greatly appreciated.  Regards Moya

[Yorkslass]

Hello Moya,

I think the only way forward now is to send for one of the children's birth certificates, which will (or should!) give you Jane's maiden name.

There are a few likely entries on the Free BMD site - for instance a birth of Ellen Daniels registered in the December quarter 1842 at West Derby, ref. 20/841.
The family were living in Toxteth Park, Liverpool, in 1841, which comes under the West Derby registration district.

Good luck,
Yorkslass

[glenburn]

Ellen's birth & baptism of course feature thus in the on-line Lancashire OPC site :-

Baptism: 21 Oct 1844 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ellen Daniels - Child of William Daniels & Jane
    Born: 21 Oct 1842
    Abode: Northumberland St Toxteth Park
    Occupation: Pilot
    Baptised by: Thos. Halton Curate
    Register: Baptisms 1843 - 1844, Page 346, Entry 2763
    Source: LDS Film 93884

Unlucky that mother's maiden name isn't shown, since this became a civil registration requirement as of 1 July 1837. However, it does narrow the birth down to the December quarter of 1842?

[moya72]

Thankyou Yorkslass & Glenburn for your interest, I have finally found Jane's maiden name. It was Davies.  Regards  Moya

[Yorkslass]

Hello again Moya,

Glad you are making some progress.

You may be interested in this, from the Liverpool Mercury, June 5 1846.
It's about a collision between two ships, the Rambler and the Sea Nymph on the River Mersey, and William was a witness. (I haven't attached the whole report, as the page was too big, I think)

[glenburn]

My 2 x great-grand uncle Thomas EVANS (b1803 Little Meols), for many years master of the Magazines lifeboat, was also caught up in this incident. His account of it can be seen on page 18 of 'The Cruise of the Challenger Lifeboat' at :-

http://url.ie/6f7x 

PS. Four of Thomas EVANS' brothers were Liverpool Pilots - two of them losing their life in the course of duty (in 1849 and 1874).

[moya72]

Thankyou so much Yorkslass & Glenburn for your help, very much appreciated.  regards Moya