Elizabeth HARMAN's father, which one?

[LordOfKent]

Hi folks,

I have Elizabeth HARMAN b 1830 Surrey d. 1902 Gravesend.
She married William TURNER, b 1825 at Reigate, Surrey 9/12/1849.
I had Elizabeth's parents as Henry HARMAN and Sarah BROOKER.
This was in some work that was done by somebody else but all seems verified.

I ordered a marriage cert from GRO (1849 qtr=D Vol=0IV Page=481)

On the cert all items match until Elizabeth's father's names - James HARMAN. ?

I've had a look at the 1841 and 1851 census, and some parish records for that period, but cannot seem to prove or disprove who is who.

It may be that I have the right cert, but can't see where the other data went wrong or of course vice versa. All help welcome.

Thanks

John

[CaroleW]

The Elizabeth Harman with parents Henry & Sarah was b Horley per IGI

What part of Surrey was your Elizabeth born

[Annette7]

Hi

On 1861/1871 Census Elizabeth's birthplace is given as Horley - but in 1851 it is given as Leigh, Surrey.   Also, the census indicates birthdate as ca.1827 not 1830 and IGI has the following:

Elizabeth Harman bp.10/9/1826 Leigh, Surrey dau. of James and Martha.

In 1841 Census - at Charlwood, Surrey - James and Martha plus 4 children are transcribed as Harmon - ref. HO107 - piece 1076 - Book 3 - Folio 30 - Page 7.   Elizabeth not with them (probably working as a servant somewhere).   Can't find baptisms for the eldest 2 children (Caroline 12 and Dinah 10) with them but IGI shows the 2 youngest were baptised at Horley - Emma 22/5/1836 and Edward 19/2/1832.

James Harman and Martha Jordan married 6/5/1826 Leigh, Surrey

Annette

[LordOfKent]

The Elizabeth Harman with parents Henry & Sarah was b Horley per IGI

What part of Surrey was your Elizabeth born

What I have in this report by the other person is:-

Elizabeth Turner nee Harman
Born 1830
Christened 17/10/1830 Horley, Surrey
Married 9/12/1849 Reigate, Surrey to William Turner
Died 1902 Gravesend
Buried 11/7/1902 St. Georges, Gravesend

Parents Henry Harman & Sarah Harman nee Brooker

1841 Census aged 10 living at Landons, Horley, Surrey
1851 Census aged 24 living in Bell Street, Reigate, Surrey
1861 Census aged 32 living in West Street, Buckland, Surrey
1871 Census aged 44 living in West Street, Buckland, Surrey
1881 Census aged 54 living at 94 West Street, Gravesend, Kent
1891 Census aged 64 living at 35 Raphael Road, Gravesend, Kent
1901 Census aged 75 living at 6 Albion Road, Gravesend, Kent

Occupation 1841 Servant

Notes:
On the 1891 census shown as living woth her Son-In-Law benjamin Wood and Daughter Martha and on the 1901 census living with Grandson Cecil Turner.

Children Ann ch 23/6/1850 Reigate, Emma ch 8/8/1852 Reigate, James Edward ch 1/7/1866 Reigate, Charlotte Mary ch 20/10/1858 Reigate, Martha Elizabeth ch 1/7/1866 Reigate.

[Valda]

Hi

This was in some work that was done by somebody else but all seems verified.

Not if they didn't check the parish register including the burial register (not found on the IGI) and the actual marriage certificate as you have done. Relying on online resources alone may not be enough.


Burial St Bartholomew Horley
11th August 1839
Elizabeth Harman aged 8

Deaths Sep 1839   
Harman  Eliza     Reigate  4 *



Regards

Valda

[LordOfKent]

Thanks Annette and Valda.

So it looks like I have quite a task on my hands now using James HARMAN as the father as per the mar cert. I will have to research from there back myself and see what I can put together for families and individuals. The trouble is that she had the data back to the 1600's which I will have to go through and verify.

Oh Well