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Owen Richard Pughe Owen -Surgeon in Bala
« on: Monday 07 June 10 12:57 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Owen Richard Pughe Owen is my great grandmothers brother and he was born in Conway in 1861.  He qualified as a physician/surgeon (not sure where?) and married Theresa Roberts in Bala in 1886.  On the 1991 census he is living in Bala, with his wife and two children Margaret and William Thomas.  He died in 1893 in Bala, but I can find no details about why he died so young (32)?  Given he was a surgeon I thought there may have been an obituary or mention in the papers, but so far I've found nothing.  I hope to visit the Merioneth archives later in the year, but until then can anyone shed any liight on my Great Uncle please?
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Re: Owen Richard Pughe Owen -Surgeon in Bala
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 June 10 13:40 BST (UK) »
Hi  :)

As you've not found anything in the papers, the best thing, unless you wait until you visit Dollgellau,   is to obtain his death certificate:


Owen Richard P Owen June q, 1893, Bala, vol 11b p 265


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Re: Owen Richard Pughe Owen -Surgeon in Bala
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 22:14 BST (UK) »
British Medical Journal 30 Apr 1881 p.709 noted the graduation of OR Pughe Owen
with a medical degree at Edinburgh University, The Edinburgh Medical Journal of
1884 added that he was from Dolgellau.

British Medical Journal 29 July 1893 reported his death very briefly and
Ygenedl Cymreig, a Caernarfon weekly, printed an appeal for creditors of his
estate  to come forward on 25 Apr 1893. He died on 4 Apr 1893.

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Re: Owen Richard Pughe Owen -Surgeon in Bala
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 22:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Graff and Gadget, 

Many thanks for your replies.

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Re: Owen Richard Pughe Owen -Surgeon in Bala
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 22:26 BST (UK) »
How very strange:

1881 Census
64 South Clerk Street, Edinburgh Newington
685/5 ED 81 Page 10
Household of John F Robertson:

Owen R P Owen, lodger, unm, 19, medical student, b. Kirkwall, Orkney

Just for your  info - but I found it interesting


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Re: Owen Richard Pughe Owen -Surgeon in Bala
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 23:08 BST (UK) »
On the 1871,  he's in Bala with his parents, William and Margaret. Here, he's down as being born Conway:

RG10/5686/26/8



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Re: Owen Richard Pughe Owen -Surgeon in Bala
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 23:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget,

Yes he was born in Conway where his father was a bank manager, so not sure why there is an Orkney birthplace?  I don't have access to the details of the Scottish census to see if it's a transcription error, but it must be, or a remarkable coincidence.

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Re: Owen Richard Pughe Owen -Surgeon in Bala
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 23:23 BST (UK) »
I would think that Mr Robertson, his landlord, got confused when he was filling in the schedule - but it just goes to show how we should take census info with a pinch of salt and look to other evidence for confirmation  :)


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Re: Owen Richard Pughe Owen -Surgeon in Bala
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 10 June 10 00:25 BST (UK) »
Hello

I've found a couple of references on Gwynedd Archives site that relate to the partnership of
Richard Owen Jones, Bala, Surgeon and Apothecary, and Owen Richard Pugh Owen, of Barmouth, Surgeon and Apothecary

Deed of co-partnership   1885 Aug. 5
References Z/DP/5/45 and Z/DP/5/46


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