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Shimmell/Shimwell - Whittington/Newbold
« on: Monday 14 June 10 15:53 BST (UK) »
Does anyone have any idea where John Shimmell/Shimwell was from? He was born c1783 but on the 1841 & 1851 censuses he says that he was born out of county. He lived in the Chesterfield area and had connections to Staveley & Newbold. He married Ann Glossop in 1803 Chesterfield, had nine children and died in 1870 at his daughter's pub in Newbold.

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Re: Shimmell/Shimwell - Whittington/Newbold
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 June 10 16:01 BST (UK) »
Yorkshire or Staffordshire look like possibilities - have you followed these up?

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Re: Shimmell/Shimwell - Whittington/Newbold
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 June 10 16:04 BST (UK) »
If he only died in 1870 - what is his birthplace on the 1861 census
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Re: Shimmell/Shimwell - Whittington/Newbold
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 June 10 16:30 BST (UK) »
There is an IGI entry for John Shinwell 1796 Bramtpon. Derbyshire. England.

Also an 1861 Census for a John Shenwell. 1794. Born Brampton. Derbyshire. Living at Old Road. Widow.  ;D



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Re: Shimmell/Shimwell - Whittington/Newbold
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 June 10 16:33 BST (UK) »
So, he's in Stavely lodging with his daughter Ann (Richardson) in 1851.

So is this him in 1861 Staveley? Lodging with the Wagstaffs ?

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John 'Shirmels' 84 Ag Lab born Lancs, Tinsley

Age is shown 84, but I cant see an individual with these statistics back in 1851.

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Re: Shimmell/Shimwell - Whittington/Newbold
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 June 10 17:51 BST (UK) »
Once stayed at a holiday cottage belonging to farmers by the name of Shimwell in Youlgreave, Derbys.  We were across from the parish church and the churchyard had many Shimwell headstones.

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Re: Shimmell/Shimwell - Whittington/Newbold
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 June 10 20:06 BST (UK) »
I've followed up both the Youlgreave and Brampton Shimwells and don't think there's any connection.
I can't find him on the 1861 census, I've never been able to find the John who lives with the Wagstaffs, I'll have to check that out. The Staffordshire connection looks good, especially as some of his sons/grandsons move down there to live.

Thanks  for your help everyone!

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Whittlesey, Thorney - Cambridgeshire
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London
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Re: Shimmell/Shimwell - Whittington/Newbold
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 21 July 10 23:34 BST (UK) »
My mother is a shimwell origanaly from youlgreave! I know its a popular name from that particular village and she still has shimwell family there!

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Re: Shimmell/Shimwell - Whittington/Newbold
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 22 July 10 01:35 BST (UK) »
Hi, their is from freereg a,

Place Chesterfield
Church St Mary & All Saints
BaptismDate 10 Apr 1776
Forename John
FatherForename James
MotherForename 
FatherSurname SHIMEL
MotherSurname 
Abode Walton
Regards.
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