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Re: FREEMAN WILES birth 1812 St Neots
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 15 June 10 21:43 BST (UK) »
Hi David

Thanks for letting me know on Ancestry. Glad Bellababy has finally found out the information she was after.

Here is my tree if it's help to anyone.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=are-we-related&id=P510464373

If you ever come across a marriage for Naomi Wiles' brother Pelatiah Morris, I would be grateful if you can let me know.

Should be in St Neots about 1831 to a Mary Ann.

Cheers, Terry
Ambler, Blanks, Fry, Rickner, Dolby, O'Shea, Martin, Morris, Taylor, Cockell, Ramsden, Nettlefield...

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Re: FREEMAN WILES birth 1812 St Neots
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 16 June 10 06:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Terry

1828 St Neots Pelaliah Morris and Mary Ann Pack (per Hunts Marriage Index)

Mary Ann Pack, dau of William and Mary, baptised at St Neots on 24 May 1804

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: FREEMAN WILES birth 1812 St Neots
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 16 June 10 07:35 BST (UK) »
Here's an odd one!

I see from Terry's tree that one of Freeman's children was Susannah Squire Wiles.

Baptised at St Neots on 24 May 1803 was Susannah Holmes SQUIRE dau of William and Mary, aged 8 mths, and it was the following year that Richard Wiles married Susannah Holmes.

But I'm blowed if I can find the connection between WILES, SQUIRE and HOLMES (yet!)

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: FREEMAN WILES birth 1812 St Neots
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 16 June 10 07:58 BST (UK) »
OK, found Bellababy's tree on Ancestry too.

There's a burial at Toseland on 5 March 1853 of Mary Morriss age 46, which seems to be the wife of Pelatiah.

My visitor is about to leave home for her 15 minute drive to East Midlands airport, and my house is still a tip. But I've never been one to let housework stand between me an interesting genealogical problem!

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell


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Re: FREEMAN WILES birth 1812 St Neots
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 16 June 10 09:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks verys much David.

At the time, I was assuming the Squires name was something to do with Freeman's wife or his parents, but I couldn't find any link.

I also couldn't find the link for his other daughter with the name Coulson, other than Naomi's brother Benjamin was living with some Coulson's in 1841.

Cheers, Terry
Ambler, Blanks, Fry, Rickner, Dolby, O'Shea, Martin, Morris, Taylor, Cockell, Ramsden, Nettlefield...

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Re: FREEMAN WILES birth 1812 St Neots
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 16 June 10 16:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all your help guys!
I thought that the Richard Wiles born in 1782  who was buried 21.1.1820 would have been Freemans father and they had maybe all be baptised (as maybe again)  they knew he was about to pop his clogs - so to speak !
As for the Squire / Coulson bit im not clear on yet but i did notice  they appeared after Freeman had gone AWOL from his family .
Silvester that you mentioned was also on the 1841 census  being an inmate at the local gaol - wonder what he had been up to ??
bellababy
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Wiles St Neots Cambs / Staffs/ Rotherham
Friedrich Boye Lubeck Germany / Llandudno

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Re: FREEMAN WILES birth 1812 St Neots
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 06 July 10 08:52 BST (UK) »
Good morning David
Hope your visitor enjoyed their visit and the weather behaved itself!
I think  i have solved the Squire problem - Susannah Wiles nee Squire daughter of James Squire and Mary Burder poss of Little Paxton about 1771. Now i have found that Susannah had Children :  Silvester , James, Mary, Harriett and Freeman and im guessing that James  and Harriett are from her first marriage but as the St Neots reg are the way they are i cant access grrrr.
Im also thinking that Richard Wiles parents are William (victualler) and Henrietta as their names follow on down the line but yet again impossible to get marriage etc.
Henrietta married a Samuel Church i think maybe in Eaton Socon but i dont know dates......
Thats my update for the moment
spk soon
bellababy
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Wiles St Neots Cambs / Staffs/ Rotherham
Friedrich Boye Lubeck Germany / Llandudno

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Re: FREEMAN WILES birth 1812 St Neots
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 06 July 10 16:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Bellababy

I'm on holiday in Derby, now that French schools have broken up. I'm back home on the 14th, and I'll have a look at St Neots baptisms then - I have the transcript

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: FREEMAN WILES birth 1812 St Neots
« Reply #17 on: Monday 12 July 10 12:09 BST (UK) »
Hi David just a few things i have found while you were away which may help you on your return from Derby (love Derby - whereabouts are you?)
I found several will s dated from 1812 to 1879.
The 1812 will mentions Parties: Richard Wiles of st Neots, mealman and William Wiles of St. Neots, dealer in corn. It appears Richard Wiles bought property ( from Frances Brace ) on the former site of the Three Blackbirds  "nr shortsands".
Another will dated 1838 mentions James Wiles eldest son to Susannah and Richard Wiles. Mary Wiles of St Neots  gets mentioned as daughter to Susannah.
Henrietta Wiles also gets mentioned i think as Richards mum but im still trying to work out who is who.
If it helps you the page is http://blars.adlibsoft.com   (bedforshire county council)
Terry may also find this interesting to have a look at .
Enjoy  your last few days
Bellababy
Wiener/wiener Germany Malchin mecklenburg Schwerin Rostock and Hamburg
Wiles St Neots Cambs / Staffs/ Rotherham
Friedrich Boye Lubeck Germany / Llandudno