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Esther Hunt - Loughborough 1836, lookup request
« on: Monday 28 June 10 13:51 BST (UK) »
I would be very grateful if anyone is able to shed any light on Esther Ann Hunt (born c. 1836).

She is listed in the 1841 census, aged 5yrs, Regent Street, Loughborough with:
Thomas Hunt   50
Ann Hunt   55
Ann HuntJunr.   25
James Hunt   15

In the 1851 census she is still living in Regent Street Loughborough but listed as grand-daughter to Thomas and Ann (Snr.) with none of the other family present.

She later married Thomas Clarke in Loughborough 1856.  I have a copy of her marriage certificate but it does not name any father.  Her birth puts her just before any GRO records and so I am struggling to find her lineage; I can't identify her mother either - which son/daughter of Thomas and Ann (Snr) was her parent? 

I suspect the younger Ann in the 1841 census was her mother and perhaps born out of wedlock although there is a mark on this census for Ann next to the ditto for "Hunt" which I cannot decipher but may be something like "law" and so this Anne may have been a daughter in law?

Any assistance would be gratefully received.

Regards

Kevin Gay
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Re: Esther Hunt - Loughborough 1836, lookup request
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 June 10 14:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Kevin

This is possibly her:

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http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start

Esther Ann HUNT chr 10 Apr 1836, All Saints Loughborough
Mother: Ann HUNT

(no father listed so does appear to be an illigitimate birth)

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Re: Esther Hunt - Loughborough 1836, lookup request
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 June 10 14:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Kevin

Just to add - I think the word after "do /ditto" for young Ann, is "Jnr".
This notation is probably a predeliction of the enumerator - on the facing page, young Mary KIDDIER and young Fanny MORRIS have the same suffix more clearly written  ;D

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Re: Esther Hunt - Loughborough 1836, lookup request
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 June 10 15:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Ambly,

thank you very much for your time... in hindsight I think you are absolutely right about the "Jnr" to distinguish her from her mother.

As for the record search that you have found - fantastic! but you have successfully thrown a spanner in the works for me! :-)

Esther's uncle James as listed in the 1841 census (my great-great-grandfather) was married in the Catholic Chapel in Loughborough to Ada Spencer for whom I've got a Christening record in Hathern indicating she was from a Wesleyan parish.  Now Esther appears CofE (presumably inferring that the rest of the family might be) so now I have to discover why James and Ada were married as Roman Catholics!

Subsequent generations were also RC and I have read that at the time Catholics would have dual ceremonies in order to maintain the legitimacy rights from the Established Church at the same time satisfying religious beliefs with a Catholic marriage/baptism before the ceremonies were legally recognised.  Perhaps this is possible particularly if Esther is illegitimate - it would be one less hurdle.  Think I will have to do more evidence gathering before I make the facts fit the story or vice versa though.

Thank you again for your help.

Regards

Kevin 

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Kaveney, Burke:                                         Ireland, Staffordhire.
Hunt, Davis, Taylor, West, Fox, Spencer:    Loughborough, Leicester, Rutland, Northants.
Wise, Farrow, Garbett, Oakley:                  North Yorks, Cleveland
HOFSTÄTTER, Konrad, Geiregger:             Austria, Germany


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Re: Esther Hunt - Loughborough 1836, lookup request
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 June 10 20:31 BST (UK) »
kevin, i can check those l'boro records for you but i am going away wed -sun this week so may not be until week after (when i think books are due back anyway!!

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Re: Esther Hunt - Loughborough 1836, lookup request
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 June 10 22:52 BST (UK) »
Diddy, that is very kind of you if you can spare the time.  I would be interested to know what books.. I'm a bit of a novice at this!

Have a great trip.

Regards

Kevin
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Kaveney, Burke:                                         Ireland, Staffordhire.
Hunt, Davis, Taylor, West, Fox, Spencer:    Loughborough, Leicester, Rutland, Northants.
Wise, Farrow, Garbett, Oakley:                  North Yorks, Cleveland
HOFSTÄTTER, Konrad, Geiregger:             Austria, Germany

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Re: Esther Hunt - Loughborough 1836, lookup request
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 29 June 10 09:28 BST (UK) »
only my ordinary Library books!!

Diddy ;D
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Re: Esther Hunt - Loughborough 1836, lookup request
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 29 June 10 09:44 BST (UK) »
Oh I get it... More literary masterpieces than historical reference material!  I am slow sometimes.


Kevin
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Flood, Keefe Ennis:                                    Chicago, St. Louis, New York.
Kaveney, Burke:                                         Ireland, Staffordhire.
Hunt, Davis, Taylor, West, Fox, Spencer:    Loughborough, Leicester, Rutland, Northants.
Wise, Farrow, Garbett, Oakley:                  North Yorks, Cleveland
HOFSTÄTTER, Konrad, Geiregger:             Austria, Germany

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Re: Esther Hunt - Loughborough 1836, lookup request
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 29 June 10 20:08 BST (UK) »
Hi, i had a quick look today but didn't have the details of Adas birth in L'boro (shes not in hte Hathern records) so haven't checked that yet.

Esther Ann Hunt 10/4/1836  bastard daughter of Ann Hunt of Loughborough.

looked in Leics IGI and found this but dates i think are wrong for your james=Eliz

James Spencer = Elizabeth Smith 21/9/1835 Loughborough High Street, leicester Road,Wesleyan

Adam Spencer s/o James Spencer & Elizabeth Smith 18/9/1836 Hathern

James Spencer s/o James Spencer & Elizabeth Smith 18/9/1836 Hathern

There was a thread on this board for the Wesleyan chapel in L'boro a while ago - I provided a picture. It was pulled down last year.

wil have a better look when back from break,
 
Diddy
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