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Re: Harry and Sarah McKay Keefers? after 1911
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 06 July 10 04:03 BST (UK) »
Father and son from this family as well as the father's brother all signed up to serve in WWI
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Re: Harry and Sarah McKay Keefers? after 1911
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 06 July 10 13:17 BST (UK) »
Hello Pat & Debbie,

I posted the 1916 Census to see what Pat thought because she is working on very little information but it seems there are many cooincidences with this family.  You are correct no other children have been mentioned yet.
I agree with all that Debbie has written re: the marriage and birth of Alice Elizabeth, the occupation of Harry changing from carman to painter seemed insignicant.
If you look at the London births for Harry - perhaps he was'nt a McKay. The London births give Harry Richardson born 26 Aug 1899 and baptised 27 Sept 1899 to Harry Richardson (soldier) and Sarah Richardson. The address is 23 Gilroy Square.
On the marriage of Harry McKay to Sarah Richardson 21 July 1902 the address is 23 Gilroy Square.
They had moved to 22 Millman Street by the time Alice Elizabeth was baptised in March 1903

London Baptism:-

Name: Harry Richardson

Date: 27 Sep 1899
Father's Name: Harry Richardson - Mother's Name: Sarah Richardson
In The Parish: St Luke, Chelsea and the Borough: Kensington and Chelsea. Middlesex
 
Sarah’s father George was deceased when she married Harry, it looks as if he could have died 1888 Chelsea. What seems peculiar is that on the 1901 census for 23 Gilroy Square, Sarah Richardson is with her mother Sophia who seemingly has remarried to Robert Richardson (an entry March 1895 Chelsea 1 a 486 but the marriage entry  does not show Robert Richardson) and the census does not show Harry born in 1899  ???

1901 23 Gilroy Square. Chelsea.

Robert Richardson 45
Sophia Richardson 43
Sarah Richardson 22
George Richardson 18
Alice Richardson 14
Edward Richardson 10
Charles King 7     AMENDED TO SHOW CHARLES KING
T Cross 43
C Cross 34
George Cross 13
Willie Cross 9
Alice Cross 6
Rose Cross 4
Lily Cross 2
Emily Cross 5 months
 
 
 


So I still strongly believe that this is the correct family and would'nt want to discount them yet.

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Re: Harry and Sarah McKay Keefers? after 1911
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 07 July 10 21:18 BST (UK) »
Sandra, you are absolutely right, ;D my grandfather Charles King should also have shown up on the 1901 census as he was brought up by his grandparents the Richardsons in Gilroy Square. His mother was Sophia Richardson (older sister of Sarah) who married Mr King some time after Charles' birth then seemed to abandon him, I think his father died but haven't got very far with that, Sophia seemed to take up with someone else, reverting to her proper name Barnard (yes, she was born out of wedlock too! - I said my family seemed to make a habit of it!) Yes, I agree about the death of George Richardson and then the  mysteriousappearance of Robert Richardson - I never found a marriage - think there wasn't one!

Debbie - I didn't know we were looking for a family with additional children either! But I'm so excited by all this information.

Pressure of work at the moment means I can't really take the time to digest all this at the moment, I am absolutely overwhelmed at what you've found out that fits in with my (very limited) research.

Thank you both, the pieces are beginning to fit.....

Pat


King, Richardson, Hathaway, Sweeney, Young - Chelsea, London
Richardson - Rayne Essex
Steward, Hindry, Hewitt - Norfolk, North Walsham area

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Re: Harry and Sarah McKay Keefers? after 1911
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 07 July 10 21:24 BST (UK) »
Charles King is on that census - its just alot of people were added so I never included him - will go back to double check 

Have Amended to show him  ;)
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Re: Harry and Sarah McKay Keefers? after 1911
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 07 July 10 22:42 BST (UK) »
That's great, Sandra, I didn't realise all those others were there too.

Pat
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Re: Harry and Sarah McKay Keefers? after 1911
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 08 July 10 01:43 BST (UK) »
Hello Pat,

Its one of those silly entries, looking at the image the Cross family are at 24 Gilroy Square but I added what the original Census page showed as it was written.

I doubt very much that I can add anything further as regards the Canadian aspect of your family, I know there are strict privacy laws in Canada and what is available is restrictive but perhaps Debbie will help you out with that.

Wishing you the very best of luck with your continuing research.

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Sandra  ;)
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Re: Harry and Sarah McKay Keefers? after 1911
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 08 July 10 03:26 BST (UK) »
http://webproxy.edmonton.ca/external/cemeteries/
Sarah and Harry McKay are in Mt. Pleasant cemetery Block 0012 Plots 0014 & 0013.

I think your next logical step would be to obtain the obituaries from either of the previously mentioned links and hopefully they will contain enough information to include or exclude them from your tree.

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COMPLETED Re: Harry and Sarah McKay Keefers? after 1911
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 08 July 10 18:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Sandra and Debbie!

Thanks to your hard work I've got lots of leads to try now, should keep me busy for a while.

I may never trace my current Canadian family but it's satisfying to know they actually exist and aren't just a family myth!

Thank you again.
All the best to you both

Pat
King, Richardson, Hathaway, Sweeney, Young - Chelsea, London
Richardson - Rayne Essex
Steward, Hindry, Hewitt - Norfolk, North Walsham area