William Henry KEMP

[jk22]

Hello Fellow Seekers!
Thanks for the input.
I now surmise i will never be sure of the Bundabergian WILLIAM HENRY KEMP.  I have his birth reg GRO form which shows his father and mother who is also a Kemp from another line.  Also i have him on the 1871 census and in his Essex boarding school  with his younger brother, Arthur George Kemp in 1881.  Thereafter nil for WHK.  The 1902 Bundaberg marriage to Agnes Annie Gerhardt  is still in doubt for me given that his mother's name as given on that record does not agree with the solid information i have.  I find it difficult to think of WHK not remembering that his mother's maiden name was also Kemp.  I have records that show this clearly.  I admit it is teasing that the mother's name WHK gives on his 1902 marriage record resonates with both his mother and grandmother, as i have it. 
I will go back to doing searches on any WHK of that time to see if there was a Catherine Young mother of a WHK?!
Thanks, Julie

[jk22]

Thanks.

[jk22]

THANKS ALL.

[rusted]

Apart from the unreliability of the rest of the information on a death cert because it relies on the knowledge of the informant, the death place is also not necessarily an indicator of where the person lived. Often people were/are transferred to larger hospitals for management of difficult conditions not able to be managed in small outback bush nursing hospitals. Workers also may travel large (hundreds of Kms) distances from family for a job. Some trades, Shearers etc it was just part of the job.
Death Certificates can tell you a lot of rubbish even when the informant is a close relative who is grieving and not taking a lot of notice of the registrar, and especially if the registrar is just interested in getting the paperwork filled out so he can have his lunch or a cuppa.
I have Death certificates of close relatives that are just laughable, but not funny.

[Jennaya]

Hi jk22

Did you solve the problem. Was he the correct guy?

Just curious   

Regards
jennaya

[Jennaya]

I agree.

My relatives have all lived in Northern NSW, a few hours south of the border. Many have died and their deaths have been registered in Queensland, due to Brisbane being the best hospital to treat their illnesses.

[jk22]

Hello 'Jennaya'.
No  I haven't solved the 'problem' of my great grand uncle, William Henry Kemp.
I have sought to work it out with contacts found on the net but to not a very satisfactory end.
Whilst the namings are encouraging, most of the netted lines retain the later birth date.
I'm just disappointed and somewhat amazed that if the Bundabergian WHK was indeed my relative, then how come no record whatsoever of his English (Mx, Surrey) family has come to light?
My position is fixed as to the birth of 'my' WHK.  I have documents/records attesting to his context - but all disappears after the 1881 census, at least for William Henry.  Did he emigrate to Australia?  Or did he remain in England?  I have his younger brother, Arthur George Kemp marrying Emma Elizabeth Wadkins in (if I recall rightly) 1907 a year before his father's death.  I have those marriage records and all coheres with my family knowledge.  Arthur George and Emma did not have children - as far as I can ascertain.  I have them on the 1911 census.  Arthur was a window cleaner, based in Wimbledon.  That was not far at all from his half-brother, George Bower Kemp, who was a Laundry Manager on the 1911 census.  George was the twin son of Henry (Arthur's father) and his second wife, another (!) Emily (nee Jacklin.)  Both George and his younger twin brother, Harold Kemp, only had one child each - both boys.  Arthur had contact with his father, Henry, based I take from records which show him in New Malden and his marriage registration which shows Henry, his father, and as a witness.

In the absence of further dialogue with Bundabergians I fail to see that a link exists.

jk22

[jk22]

Thank you both, Rusty and Jennaya.
Am astonished and aghast at what you found 'Rusty' re the death registrations.
Regards,
Julie

[cando]

Information on death certificates is only a good as the knowledge of the informant.

I have been fortunate with my own family research to have accurate information on the death certificates other than spelling errors with given names however some of the writing of the registrars was at times almost illegible.

Marriage
1902/C104   
KEMP William Henry   
GERHARDT Agnes Annie   

Death
1953/C63   
KEMP William Henry   
Father Henry    Mother Catherine Young

William Henry KEMP's burial record in the Bundaberg Cemetery, born London
http://bundaberg.qld.gov.au/services/cemeteries/bundaberg/search?query=kemp&recid=9935

According to his wife's burial record she was born at Ipswich, Queesland and another female, possibly their daughter, are buried at the same location.

Cheers
Cando