3DG marriage Eire 1877

[PaddyInWales]

First message here: please be gentle with me 

Ancestor Henry Smith, a saddletree maker in the 3rd Dragoon Guards, wed Charlotte Elizabeth Milby on Nov 26th 1877 in Cahir, Co Limerick, Ireland - info taken from the birth cert of their daughter Charlotte Smith born in Edinburgh in 1882. They went on to have kids in other remote places in India and Africa which I have found in GRO listings, and Henry even got his photo as a long service Sergeant STM in Navy and Army Illustrated in 1896.

BUT how do I find out more about CE Milby? I know the 3DG were posted in Ireland from 1875-80, and assume that she was Irish and met Henry locally. I've tried Ancestry, FindMyPast, and one or two others, but none show a marriage at that date/locality.

Can anyone here suggest online databases I could search?

Thanks

Paddy

[km1971]

Hi Paddy

You have everything you need to order the marriage certificate from the Irish GRO. You have to print off this form - http://www.groireland.ie/docs/MarriageEnglishApp.doc - and send it to them (by post or fax) with your credit card details. You can save money by only asking for it on plain paper for 6 euros (Note 2).

If she was single you are probably correct that she was Irish. But if she turns out to be a widow you need to consider her first husband was also a soldier. They did not have widow's pensions for Other Ranks in this period, and quick re-marriages were very common.

The 3rd DG only arrived in Cahir on 14th August 1877

Ken

[PaddyInWales]

Brilliant, just what I needed, thanks Ken!

Sounds like a whirlwind romance as they only arrived in August - you are very precise with date of arrival, do you have access to the 3DG "itinerary"?

It has been quite a struggle to get this far with the name Henry Smith but there have been bits of luck and excitement along the way, hopefully to include a marriage cert shortly! Last week I stumbled across his Attestation in Dec 1867 on the web, so now have his Number, 934.

Went to Kew about a month ago and got a reader ticket, aim to revisit late August with his number, regiment and travels and glean as much info as I can.

Thanks again for your help and advice!

Paddy

[kooky]

Have you checked the marriage? I cant find it in pilot search.
Is Cahir in Co.Limerick?
Kooky

[PaddyInWales]

It says "Cahir, Co. Limerick" on their child's birth cert from Scotland in 1882, where marriage details had to be recorded as proof of wedlock. I've attached the slip. (You will also see that "Milby" is a guess as a downstoke is missing, it could be Nilby.)

I see in reality it is in Co. Tipperary now, but was it always? We had a boundary change recently and moved county effortlessly...

I've got the form Ken pointed me to filled and ready to post, but will hold back for the moment.

Thanks for looking into this.

Regards

Paddy

[km1971]

Hi Paddy

I would send the form off but leave off details of the bride or write Milby/Nilby. The Irish GRO are quite accomodating. And you can give too much information, and if you get someone who is over-fussy they may reject it because, for example, her middle name is not given.

Ken

[kooky]

There is an entry for a marriage in 1877 for Charlotte Elizabeth WILBY
Kooky

[kooky]

The marriage was at Clogheen Co. Tipperary.
Ref. - vol 19 page 253.
Crosschecked with Henry Smith - same ref. nos.
Kooky

[PaddyInWales]

Thanks for looking that out Kooky: if I screw up my eyes I can just make it a dubbya!
Wilby it is then. And even as I type your other message about Clogheen has arrived, most helpful.

Thanks to you and Ken for making me feel very welcome and not too much The Newbie! I wish I had discovered RootsChat months ago

Off to catch the post now...

Paddy