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Offline Muir

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Re: photo's old phenoix inn bridge street morpeth
« Reply #9 on: Monday 19 July 10 10:15 BST (UK) »
thanks michael

next time i am in morpeth, i will take a few snap shots and grab that book from the library you mentioned, when doing my family tree I like to put little snippets of where people lived and what they were doing.

more of a social history, so if the house are still stadning I usually snap them, if I find a grave stone then I grap a picture etc

now john muir was aged 14 and his sister would have been about 12/13, one was living in the pheonix the other was with the family, I wonder which school they might have attended in 1891 in morpeth if they lived in bridge street?

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Re: photo's old phenoix inn bridge street morpeth
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 22 July 10 11:46 BST (UK) »
two schools in the town were st james by manchester st or goosehill in castle square
i dont know when either of them opened but st james would be the oldest i think it closed in the 70s and goosehill is still there
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Re: photo's old phenoix inn bridge street morpeth
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 22 July 10 13:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that, it has indirectly led to me to another potential resource.

Land Valuation maps and books, I have found an old valutation map 1910 showing the position of the pheonix

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Offline Michael Dixon

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Re: photo's old phenoix inn bridge street morpeth
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 22 July 10 21:42 BST (UK) »

 Muir,

Today I returned the two books I borrowed from Morpeth Library to Ponteland Library ( I do have some Irish blood lol). All Northumberland County Council Libraries are "inter-linked" so the books will soon reach their home on the shelf in Morpeth.

Those books and their neighbours also have sections on the town's schools... from before 1552 ( one of first schools was actually in the Chantry) to modern times.

Michael
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Re: photo's old phenoix inn bridge street morpeth
« Reply #13 on: Friday 23 July 10 08:33 BST (UK) »
Hi

after the last post I revisited a site I used  previously
http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/Morpeth_C13.htm which was quite interesting as it has old photo's and manuscripts which proivded me with a valuation map for bridge street morpeth from 1910 on the very edge you can see the old pheonix, but what was also interesting was some of the excerts from the schools log books, for example the line about the children getting the day off to practice singing the national anthem in the market square to celebrate the new kings proclamation.

some times it is the little resources that people stumble across that are the most revealing.

keep up the good work :)

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Re: photo's old phenoix inn bridge street morpeth
« Reply #14 on: Monday 26 July 10 13:05 BST (UK) »
The plot thickens?

Just when I thought I was sure where the old pheonix Inn was located I found this 1910 land valuation map which puts the pheonix 3 doors off the queens head basically where part of rutherfords now located??? which makes it on the opposite side of the road to what I have previously understood(opposite the Howard Arms), Was there possibly Two!http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/007531FS.htm

Any Ideas??

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Re: photo's old phenoix inn bridge street morpeth
« Reply #15 on: Monday 26 July 10 14:52 BST (UK) »
Muir,

Bridge Street runs West ><East  ( with lower numbers in the west)

The Black Bull and Old?New Pheonix lay/lie on the northern side of Bridge St.

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Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 27 July 10 09:35 BST (UK) »
yes so I thought,

did you look at the link I provided in my last post, check out the building bottom right 3 along from the queens head, unless this document was created incorrectly for the tax valuation, then it is showing an old peonix PH (public House)?

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Offline Michael Dixon

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Re: photo's old phenoix inn bridge street morpeth
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 01 August 10 00:17 BST (UK) »


 From Pigots Trade Directory 1822.

 "Coaches"
"The Northumberland" Daily to Alnwick. At Noon from the New Phoenix Inn.
 "The Wonder", Daily from Newcastle arrives Noon at the Old Phoenix Inn.

 More later,
Michael
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Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY  - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND

Census information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.