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Re: Ancestors of Robert Falconer born 1827 in Lanark, Scotland.
« Reply #9 on: Monday 26 July 10 23:56 BST (UK) »

Re parentage doubts - the water just gets muddier the deeper you dig into this family.



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Re: Ancestors of Robert Falconer born 1827 in Lanark, Scotland.
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 27 July 10 00:01 BST (UK) »
I notice Wilmac has now gone offline so will wait for his comments before digging any deeper
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Re: Ancestors of Robert Falconer born 1827 in Lanark, Scotland.
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 27 July 10 22:12 BST (UK) »
Hello Carole.  First of all, thank you for welcoming me to  Roots and thanks so much for going to all the bother of finding out all these facts for me.  Wow, I must admit my head is reeling trying to sort all these out.     

As you said, Robert Snr. was first married to Jane Easton and then to Mary McArthur and I'm wondering if Jane must have died as I don't think there would be many divorces in these days.

The records I have all come from the website of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints. They start with Williamina born on 27 Aug. 1865 and this states that her parents were Robert Falconer and Janet Porteous.

The next IGI indivual record is of their marriage on 27 Sep 1850 at Glasgow.

Next is IGI individual  record of Robert's birth on 13 Jul 1827. It doesn't state the place of birth but gives the date of the christening as 29th July 1827 at Gorbals, Lanark. Parents are Robert Falconer and Mary McArthur.

Janet's birth record shows her christening was on 27 dec. 1833 at Lesmahagow.


I'd be really grateful to hear your further comments.
Thanks so much, Wilma.



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Re: Ancestors of Robert Falconer born 1827 in Lanark, Scotland.
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 27 July 10 22:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Wilma

I suspect some assumptions may have been made that because he married in Glasgow and was living there - he was also born there.  He was born in Perth.

I don't think his parents were Robert Falconer and Mary McArthur but the only way you will be able to prove that is from his death cert which will have his parents names

These are the censuses and if you check the children on the IGI you will find that parents were Robert Falconer and Janet Porteous

1851 - Glasgow

Robert Falconer 23 b Perth brass founder/finisher
Janet 22  b Edinburgh
Francis 20 brother b Perth
Glasgow St John ED 45 Page 5


1861 Glasgow - children all b Glasgow

Robert Falconer 32 b Perthshire - brass founder
Janet   31 b Edinburgh
Margaret   9
Janet  7
William 4
Isabella 2
James  20 boarder b Perthshire
Glasgow Barony ED 14 Page  17 Line 22

1871 for Perth - last 3 children b Perth

Robert Falconer 43 b Perth brassfounder
Janet P   42 b Edinburgh (assume the P = Porteous)
Janet   17
William   15
Isabella 12
Robert 4
Minnie 5   this is Williamina
George  1
Perth Burgh ED 28 Page  9 Line 5

1881 Perth - all children b Perth

Robert Falconer 52 b Perth brass founder
Janet P   52 (shown as Jennet) b Edinburgh
Minnie  16
George 12
Jemima 9 (indexed as Jammie)
Andrew  6
Perth St Pauls ED 29 Page  6 Line 23;
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Re: Ancestors of Robert Falconer born 1827 in Lanark, Scotland.
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 27 July 10 23:28 BST (UK) »
Hi again Carole,

I can't thank you enough for all the info. you sent.  I really do appreciate it.  As you suggested, I'll try to access the death certificate of Robert to see who exactly his parents were.  The info you sent about all the siblings of Williamina (Minnie) is so interesting.

If I do manage to access the death certificate, I'll let you know.

Once again, many thanks and kindest regards,

Wilma

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Re: Ancestors of Robert Falconer born 1827 in Lanark, Scotland.
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 27 July 10 23:45 BST (UK) »
This may help to narrow the search for his death

Robert & Janet were still alive in 1901 - both aged 72 but had moved to Renfrewshire and were living in the Greenock East registration district

I bet his parents were Francis Falconer and Janet Anderson
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Re: Ancestors of Robert Falconer born 1827 in Lanark, Scotland.
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 28 July 10 12:21 BST (UK) »
Children of Robert Falconer and Janet (Jane) Porteous who were born in Perth.

Helen Crawford Falconer born 11th July 1863
Williamina Falconer born 27th Aug 1865
Robert Anderson Falconer born 25th May 1867
George Crawford Falconer born 23rd February 1870
Jemima Waterson Falconer born 29th May 1872
Andrew Mitchell Falconer born 21st Oct 1874


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Re: Ancestors of Robert Falconer born 1827 in Lanark, Scotland.
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 28 July 10 12:43 BST (UK) »
If this is the same couple

Robert Falconer Janet Porteous with a Glasgow connection

Margaret Poynter Falconer baptised 27th October 1851 in Glasgow
Janet Marion Anderson Falconer born 3rd January 1854
William Falconer born 28th July 1856
Mary Stone Falconer born 1st January 1859
Isabella Heugh Falconer also born 1st January 1859

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Re: Ancestors of Robert Falconer born 1827 in Lanark, Scotland.
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 28 July 10 19:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Falkyn

Childrens details are already known from the IGI

The main issue at the moment is establishing whether Roberts parents were Robert and Mary (McArthur) as per opening post or Francis and Janet (Anderson) as per my replies
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