Please help me find Charles Pannell

[Hlfuller]

Yes that's him although you won't have a record of his death as he emigrated to Australia in the late 80s I believe and his death certificate which i have is from Perth in west Australia!

[Bryant]

1881
55 Auckland Street Greengrocers, Lambeth, Surrey
Alfred Pannell......head...47...greengrocer.....Castle Tedingham, Essex
Frances.....".........wife.....40...........................Roxwell, Chelmsford, Essex
Alfred........"..........son.....16..railway porter...Lambeth, Surrey
Albert........"..........son.....15...greengrocers boy......"
Ellen..........".........daur.....12....scholar....................."
Frances....."............."........9..........".........................."
Henry........"..........son.......8..........".........................."
Walter......."............."........1......................................"
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1861
58, Pulteney Street, Bathwick, Bath, Somersetshire
Alfred Pannell.......servant...26 (unm)....domestic servant...Castle Hedingham, Essex
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Bryant

[Bryant]

1851
Back Lane, Castle Hedingham, Essex
Charles Pannell......head...38...ag lab.....Castle Hedingham, Essex
Susan..........".........wife.....44.............................."
Alfred.........."...........son.....17...ag lab................."
John............"...........son.....15...ag lab................."
Ann............."...........daur....13.............................."
Isaac..........."...........son.....11.............................."
Elanor........."...........daur......9.............................."
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Isaac & Lydia Pannell look favourites to be the parents of Charles at this moment in time.....in the 1841 Isaac is 74 and Lydia is 60 living in the Halstead Union

1841
Halstead Union, Back Lane, Castle Hedingham, Essex
Lydia Norden.........20......................................Essex (marries William Argent in 1845)
Isaac Pannell...........2..........................................."
Julia Pannell.............1..........................................."
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1841
Halstead Union, Back Lane, Castle Hedingham, Essex
Susannah Pannell........35......................................Essex
Alfred..............."...........8..........................................."
John................."...........5..........................................."
Ann.................."...........3..........................................."
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Bryant

[Hlfuller]

Wow fantastic!
Do you the Halstead union would refer to the workhouse there?
Thank you once again

[Bryant]

Halstead Union is an area as far as i'm aware

http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/result_details.asp?DocID=83686

the Essex Society for Family History has members (with email addresses) with an interest in the name Pannell

http://www.esfh.org.uk/amsrun/Interests.php

If Isaac & Lydia are the parents of Charles it is not recorded on the IGI's but as you can see Isaac has a John Pannell aged 20 (20-24) living with him in 1841 and he is not the son of Richard so there are other male children one would think....

Isaac & Lydia Pannell
children
Richard Pannell b.4th Oct 1811, c.30th Apr 1815 Independent, Ridgwell, Essex
Jemima Pannell b.3rd Dec 1814, c.30th Apr 1815.........."................"

1841
Ridgwell, Hedingham, Halstead Union, Essex
Isaac Pannell.....74....ag lab..........Essex
Lydia......."..........60.......................Essex
John........"..........20...ag lab..........Essex
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1841
Ridgwell, Hedingham, Halstead Union, Essex
Richard Pannell.....30....ag lab..........Essex
Elizabeth..."..........35........................Essex
Susannah Argent..15........................Essex
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1841
Ridgwell, Hedingham, Halstead Union, Essex
Henry Smith........20....ag lab..........Essex
Jemima......"........25.......................Essex
Joseph Pannell....4........................Essex
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Bryant

[Bryant]

"Blimey"

Isaac and Lydia are still going in 1851!

Which proves that John is also a son.

1851
Drury Lane, Ridgwell, Hedingham, Halstead, Essex
John Pannell........head.....33.......ag lab.......Ridgwell, Essex
Ann........".............wife......27...straw plaiter........"
Isaac....."............father.....84..parish pauper......"
Lydia......"............mother...74......"........."............"
Elizabeth Kees....Aunt........79 (wid)"......".......Toppesfield, Essex
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Bryant

[Yvonne_W]

I have Isaac Pannell and Lydia in my tree and they didn't have a son Charles as far as I'm aware. All their children were born and baptised in Ridgewell:
Caroline 1798
Allen 1801
Charlotte 1805
Hephzibah 1809
Richard 1811
Jemima 1814
John 1817

[Hlfuller]

Hmm so yet again its a bit of a mystery.
I was suprised too when I found them on the 1851 census...If I remember Lydia was still about on the 1861 census as well when I had a look!

I will keep digging...Hard work this one!
Thank you again for all your continued help

[Hlfuller]

Interestingly, Charles named two sons Isaac and John.
Further proof?