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Where the Dickens is Dickens
« on: Monday 02 August 10 11:09 BST (UK) »
I'm looking for information on William Dickens, married to Hannah ?  Their family included a son Thomas Henry born Stourport-on-Severn around 1840.  Thomas married Caroline Smith in 1862 and emigrated to NZ in 1873 died 1927 at Waihi.

Any help is much appreciated
Dickens - England
Murrow - Ireland
Henery - Ireland

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Re: Where the Dickens is Dickens
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 August 10 13:37 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I don't know where you found the source as Stourport-on-Severn from, but there is an reference in the 1841 census HO107; Piece 1198; Book: 9; Civil Parish: Old Swinford; County: Worcestershire; Enumeration District: 26; Folio: 6; Page: 5; Line: 7;

Remember that adults over 15 years had their ages rounded down to the nearest multiple of 5.

William DICKENS 30  Nailor All born in Worcestershire
Hannah               30
Thomas              11
Isaiah                   8
Leland                  2

The place was Waste Bank.  Census district 26, Parish of Old Swinford, Registrar's District of Stourbridge.

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Re: Where the Dickens is Dickens
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 August 10 13:49 BST (UK) »
Is this the marriage,
Wolverhampton Marriages, St John.
23 Mar 1862,
Thomas  Dickin. 21. b. x. Packer. Franchise Street. William Dickin. Whitesmith.
Caroline Smith. 21. s. x. Franchise Street. William Smith. Locksmith.
Banns.
Witnesses, William Collins & Ann Smith.

Edward Pizey.

How do you know he was born at Stourport-on-Severn.

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Re: Where the Dickens is Dickens
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 August 10 14:07 BST (UK) »
This is the only William that I can see that is a Whitesmith.

1841. Spon Lane. West Bromwich.
William Dickin     40. Whitesmith. Not born in County.
Hannah Dickin    35.
John Dickin    16.
William Dickin    14.
Elizabeth Dickin    9.
Benjn Dickin    6.
Samuel Dickin    2.

All others born in County.
   

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Re: Where the Dickens is Dickens
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 August 10 14:14 BST (UK) »
1851. Jenny Hole, Lower Mitton. Worcs.
William Dicken     50. White smith. Leicestershire.
Esther Dicken    38. Ledbrook, Gloucestershire.
Samuel Dicken    12. West Bromwich.
Thomas Dicken    8. West Bromwich.
Martha Dicken    2. Lower Mitton.
Elizabeth Nutt    65. Visitor.
   

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Re: Where the Dickens is Dickens
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 August 10 14:19 BST (UK) »
Second marriage, First one would be about 1825 ish.

Marriages Mar 1848.
Dickin    William         Kidderminster    18.   407.   
Nutt    Esther         Kidderminster    18.   407.   

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Re: Where the Dickens is Dickens
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 August 10 14:26 BST (UK) »
I think the family jim1212 has found are the parents of Thomas Dicken/Dickin who married Caroline Smith

the ref for 1851 census given is
HO107 2039 16 25
Address Jenny Hole Lower Mitton Worcestershire

this looks like Thomas and Caroline before they emigrated

1871
The Rylands Bordersley Warwicks
Thomas Dickin Head M 30 ??? Servant W Bromwich Staffs
Caroline wife 28 Wolverhampton Staffs
Frederick son 9 Wolverhampton
Thomas H son 2 Birmingham Warwicks
RG10 3139 26 10

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Re: Where the Dickens is Dickens
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 August 10 14:45 BST (UK) »
Possible,
THOMAS DICKEN.
Christening, 12 SEP 1841, All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford.
Parents,
WILLIAM DICKEN.
HANNAH.

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Re: Where the Dickens is Dickens
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 August 10 15:28 BST (UK) »
1861. 87 Moore St, Wolverhampton.
William Dickel     60. Mar. White smith. Leicester.
Thomas Dickel    18. No work. West Bromwich.
Matha Dickel    12. Stourport, Worcestershire.
Joseph Dickel    10.  Stourport, Worcestershire.
Ann Dickel    9. Stourport, Worcestershire.

I can't see a suitable marriage for William and Hannah.
   
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