Author Topic: Robert Gordon AITKEN, b.9-08-1899  (Read 5019 times)

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Re: Robert Gordon AITKEN, b.9-08-1899
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 07 August 10 13:07 BST (UK) »


Reflecting on some of the Aitken family names, and I realise that ROBERT GORDON AITKEN, probably received his middle christian name, after his maternal grandmother's maiden name:  Sophia Lobb, nee Gordon.

My late Aunt Winifred  GRACE Aitken, after her grandmother, Grace Aitken, nee Tennant.  My other late Aunt ELIZABETH Dorothy Aitken, after her Aunt Elizabeth, also aunt of Robert Gordon Aitken.

Robert TENNANT Aitken, after his grandmother, Grace Aitken, nee Tennant.

The "John Aitkens" of the 17C, 18C and 19C; unfortunately "John" no longer seems prevalent. 
MOE,   Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa

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Re: Robert Gordon AITKEN, b.9-08-1899
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 14 August 10 14:23 BST (UK) »
Further to my mention of Robert Gordon leaving the army:
Newspaper report of the fire -
BIG FIRE AT ASHAR
WOMEN JUMP FROM BURNING BUILDINGS.
Very extensive damage was done my a fire which broke out on Friday night near the tin bazaar in Ashar. The alarm was given shortly after nine o’clock, and the Central Fire Station received a call at 9-25 P M. It was obvious to the Officer Commanding the Fire Brigade that heavy work was awaiting his men and he turned out two engines from the Central Station, two from Magil, and the two fire floats.
When the Brigade arrived on the scene they found that a large khan was well alight, and that several shops and houses in the vicinity were also burning. Unfortunately owners of some of the shops had become very excited, and thus hindered the firemen in their arduous work. Many women were hysterical; some of them jumped from the roofs of the burning buildings, and were seriously injured. In this connection, valuable work was done by members of the Basrah Civil Police, who recued women and children from perilous positions. At the time this edition went to press the injuries sustained by the residents had not been received.
The efforts of the Fire Brigade were primarily directed towards preventing an extension of the outbreak, as the location from this point of view was somewhat dangerous. After several hours’ work they succeeded in controlling the fire, but it was still burning at 7 o’clock in the morning. A number of roofs collapsed, and Lieut. Aitken, who was personally in charge of operations, was carried out of one building suffering from the effects of smoke and fumes.
It was almost 1 a.m. when the engines returned to their stations, and at that time a fire float was still working. It is too early yet to give even an approximate estimate of the damage done, but it must run into many thousands of rupees. In one of the houses there was a large store of sugar, and this, in common with other commodities and stocks,  was practically destroyed. In another building the basement was burned out, and the people had to be removed from the dancing hall which occupied the upper story by the police, which managed to get them out through the roof.

Report in local paper. No date but there is a telegram (9 May 1922) sent to his future wife saying that he was arriving back to Edinburgh from Osborne House (where he had been convalescing) and was leaving the army.

Telegram 9 MY 1922
“Miss Carfrae 13 Chamberlain Rd Edin
Leave extended till well into cold weather with view to being medically boarded out of the service
arrive Waverley 7.20 tomorrow morning Love Gordon.”

Robert Gordon is mentioned in his school register along with his older brother, John Ellis and his future brother-in-law Robert Carfrae, the younger brother of Margaret.

Merchiston Castle School Register 1833 - 1913
Second edition July 1914. Edinburgh: H&J Phillans & Wilson, 86 Hanover Street
Page 171: 1910.
AITKEN, JOHN ELLIS (B.3), [1ST Jan. 1896], (P. 1908), xv., xi ; VI. Form . Bank of Bombay, Bombay, India.
Page 178: 1913.
AITKEN, ROBERT GORDON (D.3), [9th Aug. 1899], (P. 1909), 23 Findhorn Place, Edinburgh.
CARFRAE, ROBERT (D.3), [3rd Nov. 1899], (P. 1909). 13 Chamberlain Road, Edinburgh.

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Re: Robert Gordon AITKEN, b.9-08-1899
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 14 August 10 19:06 BST (UK) »

Hello Geowin

What an amazing story of Robert Gordon Aitken's heroism during the fire in Ashar, India, and his subsequent convalescence at 'Osborne House'.

Much to comment on in your whole post, but in the meanwhile, I was under the impression that Lieut R G Aitken's recuperation had taken place on the Isle of Wight?

But, on Wikipedia there's notation of another Osborne House, which I think is the more likely of the two residences, as being the nearest military hospital for an ill cavalryman, from India!

At Corio Bay, in the Geelong District of Australia, is Osborne House, named by its owner builder, Robert Muirhead, after Osborne House, Isle of Wight. It was built during 1858 and Robert Muirhead died 1862. Following the death of his wife a year later, the house was sold and leased out, until 1878 it was sold by Muirhead's Executors to James Frances Maguire.

In 1913 it became an Australian Naval College and during WW1 was turned into a Military Hospital and also a base used by the Royal Australian Navy Submariners.  It carried on as a Military Hospital until 1924.

Lieut Robert Gordon Aitken's telegram of May, 1922, to his future wife, Margaret Carfrae in Edinburgh, announcing his arrival at Waverley Station, Edinburgh, after his convalescence following injuries received in the Bazaar fire in Ashar, India, might have been sent on his behalf, from the Antipodes, not the Isle of Wight?!
MOE,   Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa

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Re: Robert Gordon AITKEN, b.9-08-1899
« Reply #12 on: Monday 16 August 10 19:51 BST (UK) »


Hello Geowin

Do you know if Lieut Robert Gordon Aitken perhaps received any sort of formal recognition for his bravery in rescuing the people from the fire in the area near the Tin Bazaar, in Ashar, India?
MOE,   Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa


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Re: Robert Gordon AITKEN, b.9-08-1899
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 15:42 BST (UK) »


ROBERT GORDON AITKEN'S, second wife, 'Irmintraude Adelheide Deutscher' may have been a very young, Austrian Au-pair, in the home of one of his friends, when they married, 2 July, 1937.

She may have been only 19 at the time of her marriage and to have details of her birth, round about 1918 would be great?

From IGI it would appear that most Austrians with the surname of Deutscher were during the 19C and Early 20C, in the Alf-Frautautz town, of Bukowina, Austria.

Do her parents' details and place and date of birth appear on their Marriage Certificate?  Were they married in Edinburgh, Scotland?
MOE,   Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa

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Re: Robert Gordon AITKEN, b.9-08-1899
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 24 August 10 20:41 BST (UK) »
Hi, I thought we should have a picture of Robert Gordon Aitken. Here he is dressed in his "lancer's lace".

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Re: Robert Gordon AITKEN, b.9-08-1899
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 24 August 10 22:33 BST (UK) »


Thank you Geowin, what an amazing treat to be able to see at last Robert Gordon Aitken, "our long lost" family member.

What a wonderful picture of a dashing hero!

Many, many thanks

Danchaslyn
MOE,   Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa