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Re: William DUNN born circa 1791 in Tiverton
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 19 September 12 20:32 BST (UK) »
Wow, Ladies! You've got my head spinning. I hope it's clear that I had no wish to hijack JiminWales's query and only threw in my little bit in case it helped him. Since then, things have got somewhat exciting - and who am I to want it oherwise? Warm thanks to you both.

I had no plans to seek a certificate, Deb. The truth is, I'm very green at this

Just to keep the pot boiling, here is a photo of grandfather's grave at Wambrook, near Chard, Somerset, taken a few days ago. Until my aunt died and wished to be buried with him there was no stone and he was actually the first to be buried in the extended churchyard which is distinguished with a low ridge. The church contains a bier on which he was conveyed from the cottage where he died in Higher Wambrook.

Bob

(edit: I've reduced the already small photo to conform with Forum rules)

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Re: William DUNN born circa 1791 in Tiverton
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 19 September 12 21:05 BST (UK) »
That's lovely, Bob!

I've been looking at other trees on ancestry .... one seems to have a lot of detail:

Someone has the names of James Dunn b 1825, his parents, William and Jane, which would be Robert Dunn b 1852/3, his grandparents.

Father:William Dunn 1796 – d 1871
Christened 22 May 1796, Whitestone, Devon s/o David Dunn (chr 19 April 1772, Down St Mary, s/o Honour Dunn , b 1774) and Mary Pearce (chr 23 Oct 1774 Whitestone, d/o William Pearce and Sarah Cousins)
David Dunn = Mary Pearce 25 May 1794 Whitestone
and
Jane Lovell 1796 – 1879 b 1796 Culmstock, d July 1879 Whimple ..no parents for her on tree.

William Dunn = Jane Lovell
3 Dec 1818, Feniton

children of William and Jane that we have:
William 1822 -- uncle of Robert who was the father of Robert George
James 1825
Elisabeth 1828
Henry 1831 (died 1833)
Robert 1834
Mary 1836

the tree has two more:
John Dunn 1819 – 1886
Thomas Dunn 1840 – 1917

deb


Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: William DUNN born circa 1791 in Tiverton
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 19 September 12 21:41 BST (UK) »
In case Bob wants to see the trees -- Anc'y trees are all mirrored at

http://www.mundia.com

Sign up, search trees ("Find People" button), send private messages, all free.

Most people who have trees at Anc'y don't know that Anc'y reproduces them at Mundia;
there's some tiny little fine-print notice someplace about this.

Back a ways, I noted:

In 1861 Robert (father of Robert George) is with an uncle in Ottery St Mary:
William Dunn, a tailor, born c1823 in Whimple. Two of Robert's sisters (at least,
two nieces of William) are also there: Jane c1855 and Harriett c1859.

Search trees for Jane Lovell born 1796 Culmstock Devon and there is a tree that shows Robert 1853
with sisters Jane and Harriet as children of James -- it does show James married twice, once to Sarah Ann Coles
and once to Mary Ann Davey, although it indicates that all the children were to the Davey marriage.

The only James Dunn + Sarah Ann Coles marriage was in 1884 in St Thomas; that would be a second marriage.

In 1861 in Whimple, James shows as born c1818, ag lab, and Mary Ann as born c1826. Hm.
Her age in 1871 does look like 56, but that could be an error in transcribing from the original household schedule.



HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?

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Re: William DUNN born circa 1791 in Tiverton
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 20 September 12 16:17 BST (UK) »
Oh My

There's a tree on ancestry

Robert George Dunn b 1878 s/o Robert Dunn 1853 and Ann Blackmore 1849

Robert Dunn 1852 s/o James Dunn 1825 and Mary Ann Davey 1815

have we found a James Dunn 1825 yet?


Thanks Deb

This is the photo of RGD's mother, so Ann Blackmore, that auntie gave me, saying that her father visited her at 'Mappowders'. I now have doubts as there is no Mappowders anywhere near. Maypowders, near Aunk (Clyst Hydon/Clyst St Lawrence, Devon) fits quite nicely.

Bob


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Re: William DUNN born circa 1791 in Tiverton
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 20 September 12 19:21 BST (UK) »
In case Bob wants to see the trees -- Anc'y trees are all mirrored at

http://www.mundia.com

Sign up, search trees ("Find People" button), send private messages, all free.

Most people who have trees at Anc'y don't know that Anc'y reproduces them at Mundia;
there's some tiny little fine-print notice someplace about this.


Whoops! I have a strong suspicion that my brother in law is the author/owner of the Ancestry tree! I have copies of his work and at first sight he knows something we don't know and doesn't know something that we do. (smile). I'll sort it out and report again.

Incidentally, he has yet another date for grandad's death - 1926 according to the register at Chard.

Bob (refer my photo of great grandma - RGD's mother - above)

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Re: William DUNN born circa 1791 in Tiverton
« Reply #32 on: Monday 22 October 12 01:56 BST (UK) »
(back from 3 weeks absence, cert arrived just after we left)

I now have a copy of Robert's birth certificate. It doesn't seem to add anything to what Deb and Janey reported above.

"No. 199,
fifth [I think] February 1853 [could be 1855] Whimple,
Robert,
boy,
father James Dunn,
mother Mary Ann Dunn, nee Davy [? -ey],
father's occ Labourer,
informant X her mark Mary Ann Dunn mother Whimple,
registered nineteenth March 1853 [pretty clear that time],
registrar Henry Westcott"

So now I need James but don't know his age or place of birth and aren't we getting back to around the time before compulsory registration?

Bob

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Re: William DUNN born circa 1791 in Tiverton
« Reply #33 on: Monday 22 October 12 03:31 BST (UK) »
I'll just quote myself and Deb from previous posts:



FamilySearch shows William Dunn and Jane having children baptised in Whimple:

William 1822 -- uncle of Robert who was the father of Robert George
> James 1825
Elisabeth 1828
Henry 1831 (died 1833)
Robert 1834
Mary 1836



James is with his family in 1871 - Whimple

> James Dunn 46 farm lab b Whimple
Mary Ann wife 56 b ?
Jane dau 16 b Whimple
Harrit (sic) dau 12 b ditto ... could she be the niece with Uncle William in 1861
William Davy G.son 11 b ditto
Frederick J Davy Gson 2 b ditto



And I think that is consistent with the sensible family trees on line.

The marriage to Mary Ann Davey was in 1855 in St Thomas reg dist.


Robert 1853 never appears with parents James and Mary Ann in a census -- in 1861 he is with his uncle William.

Making sense? ;)
HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?

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Re: William DUNN born circa 1791 in Tiverton
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 10 February 16 07:19 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone tell me when William Dunn's (b 1791) father David Dunn died?  Or when his mother Mary died?  Also has anyone seen the marriage register of David & Mary, does it state his occupation?

I am trying to figure out if I have my David Dunn confused with this one.  I also have him baptised 19.4.1792 at Down St Mary to Honor Dunn but my David married Ann Rice 1801 at Plympton St Mary. Could this be a second marriage?  David & Ann had 9 children,  two daughters reflecting his mother's name Honor.
John   baptised 26.12.1802 at Plympton St Mary
Robert Andrews Dunn baptised 9.9.1804 Underwood Plympton St Mary
Honor born July 1805 buried 6.7.1805
David baptised 8.11.1807 Plympton St Mary
Sally Ann Andrews Dunn baptised 13.10.1811 Plympton St Mary
Honor baptised 26.9.1813 Underwood Plympton St Mary
Richard born Underwood 12.1.1816 baptised 28.1.1816 Plympton St Mary
Mary Ann baptised 6.4.1817 Underwood Plympton St Mary
Elizabeth baptised Down St Mary 1.7.1820, (another 10.7.1821)

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Re: William DUNN born circa 1791 in Tiverton
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 14 August 22 14:40 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately for the researcher, there are cousin marriages in the Boobier tree...kind of makes for hard work matching the families together.