William DUNN born circa 1791 in Tiverton

[deb usa]

Hi

I thought I would search for Matida Dunn d/o William and Ann

I believe she married Philip Boobier, July q 1851, Tiverton

In 1861 they are transcribed incorrectly as BOOKER
Anthony, Cornwall
Philip Boobier, 28, lab, b Tiverton
MATILDA , 28 b ditto .... Matida was 8 on the 1841 census.
Elizabeth dau 7 b ditto
Louisa dau 4 b ditto
Philip son 2 b Exminster

By 1871 they are back in Tiverton living in Chapel St
Philip Boobier 38 lab
Matilda 38
Elizabeth dau 17
Lucy dau 14
Samuel son 3 b Plymouth

1881
Higher Crt, Tiverton
Philip Boobier, 49 railway lab
Matilda 48 lace mender
Samuel 14 lace hand ,b ?alton Heights, devon
they have 2 lodgers with them
Charles Wood, 21 and Thomas Bowerman, 24 both railway labs

1891 they are back a Chapel Street, Tiv.
Philip Boobier 57 excavator/plate
Matilda 57 lace mender
Samuel son, mar, 23 smith
Elizabeth dau-in-law, mar 21 laundress b Bampton
John grandson 1 b Tiverton

By 1901 Philip and Matilda Boobier (both 69) are living with their son, Samuel and Family at 90 Bampton street, Tiv.
Samuel and Elizabeth's children: John 11, Samuel 8, Florence 6 and Matilda 3.

Matilda Boobier bc 1833 dies in the sept q 1906, Tiverton.

Philip Boobier bc 1832 dies dec q 1909, Tiverton.

Will work on the other children to see if there are any clues as to their mother's maiden name.

deb 

[JaneyCanuck]

Deb - coincidence?? You posted long ago in this Boobier thread that has recently been resurrected.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,288228.0.html

I know I did some Boobier investigating at another board some years ago ... will see whether I can find it.

[JaneyCanuck]

But Deb ... the household in reply #1:


William Dunn Head 70 Lab. born Bradninch Devon
Ann wife 65 born Bradninch Devon
M dau 20 Lace maker born Tiverton
C dau 18 Lace maker born Tiverton

I presume M and C are Matilda and Charlotte from the 1841 census.


I'm pretty sure I ruled them out as being the William in question in the OP (reply #3) - ? -


The family is in Whimple in 1841, with father William c1791, a tailor, and no sons other than those shown in 1851. However, the couple in 1841 could have had other sons who had left home by then. For example, there is a Samuel Dunn c1816 nearby in Whimple who is almost certainly another son of theirs, since he is the only other Dunn in Whimple. He might be the most likely candidate for father of Robert c1852.

I might have got my Dunns muddled there, but I hope not! You would need the birth certificate of Robert George's father Robert, to follow the trail back accurately. His birth seems to be registered March quarter 1853 in St Thomas reg dist, which covered Whimple.


Without the marriage/birth certificates of Robert born c1852-3 in Whimple, Devon, the father of Robert George, it isn't really possible to go back any further with any assurance.

[deb usa]

Hi

I will reread ...I must have missed that ...you ruling them out, that is.
The info for Matilda Boobier nee Dunn fits with the 1841 age!

I just noticed in the 1841 census that there is another person in the same house/another room?

1841
William Dunn 50
Ann 50
Henry 15
Thomas 15
Matilda 8
Charlotte 6
//
Elizabeth Hole 50 Lacehand Yes, born in county

I wonder if she is related to the family somehow?

deb

[JaneyCanuck]

Robert George Dunn, our subject, was the son of Robert and Ann. The problem is that Robert Sr does not appear in censuses with his parents. In 1861 he is with an uncle William.

In 1851, William c1823 (the uncle of Robert c1852, Robert George's father) is with his parents William, born in Uffculme, and Jane, and has brothers Robert c1834 and Thomas c1839 and sister Mary c1837, and there is a grandson John J aged 1. (By 1861, young John is also a servant, a carter in Whimple, so no clue to his parents either.)

So the parents of Robert (father of Robert George) are unknown w/o his birth/marriage certificates.

But his grandparents (the parents of his uncle William) are apparently William and Jane Dunn in the 1851 census. So not the William and Ann with daughter Matilda.

FamilySearch shows William Dunn and Jane having children baptised in Whimple:

William 1822 -- uncle of Robert who was the father of Robert George
James 1825
Elisabeth 1828
Henry 1831 (died 1833)
Robert 1834
Mary 1836

James or Robert, or a son whose baptism isn't shown, would be the father of Robert who was the father of Robert George. Or Robert George's mother could have been an unmarried daughter of William and Jane, for that matter.

[deb usa]

There's a tree on ancestry which has William and Ann Dunn having another child : William Dunn b 1818 died 1869, Married Lydia Stribling in 1837.
Marriage cert states William is s/o William Dunn, Shoemaker.
they also have the 1851 census for William jnr ..states he's born Collumpton ... humm!

The tree also has Matilda marrying to Philip Boobier ...yay! Maybe the marriage cert should be ordered to confirm this.

No one seems to know what happened to henry and Thomas ...i wonder if they emigrated?
I see a marriage for Charlotte possibly to Henry Heard. I Find her in 1861 married but lodging with an Elizabeth Poole. Can't spot her after this ...will keep looking!

deb

red post ..will read

[deb usa]

Hi janey

I thought our subject was the family of William and Ann Dunn as posted by Jim not Robert George Dunn posted by Bobpen ..or am I going insane? LOL

I am looking for William DUNN born circa 1791 in Tiverton according to the 1841 census

He was aged 50 and was a Shoemaker living in Quicks Court, Tiverton, Devon

Can Anyone help??

We are trying to establish his children and indeed when and who he married

We do know his wifes first name was Ann

Thanks in advance

[JaneyCanuck]

The thing is ... the OP says:

"I am looking for William DUNN born circa 1791 in Tiverton according to the 1841 census"

But what he is really looking for is the ancestors of Robert George Dunn, birth registered 1878 in Tiverton, son of Robert Dunn, probably birth registered 1853 in St Thomas. (See the details in his reply #2.)

The line back from them does not seem to go to William and Ann in 1841.

This was Jim's hypothesis as to who the great-grandparents of Robert George Dunn were.

But every indication is that they were not William and Ann, they were William and Jane -- this household in Whimple in 1841:

William Dunn aged 50
Jane Dunn aged 40
William 15
Robert 6
Mary 4
Thomas 1

This William was a tailor, as was the uncle William with whom Robert 1853, father of Robert George 1878, was living in 1871.

So while the William and Ann couple may be related, their family is not likely going to help identify Robert George's.

Only the birth/marriage certificates of Robert 1853 will do that.

[deb usa]

Ahhhhhh I didn't realise that as the first post was just asking for the 1841 family ... now I feel silly!