Capt Ralph R Shorto,RN

[RnD]

I am looking for the parents of Ralph Russell Shorto.
DOB: 23 May 1908 Place: Portsmouth
We know a little about his naval career, and the fact he was awarded
the "Distinguished Service Cross" in june of 1940, following the 2nd Battle of Narvik.
We also know he died 22 NOV 1956 and was buried in Naples, Italy while still actively serving in the Royal Navy.
We also found a 4 line obit referring to his mother as Mrs. H.R. Shorto of Recife, Brazil.
We have not been able to locate any other information.
Can anyone help me locate his parents???
Any information is greatly appreciated.
Cheers from Australia

[karenlee]

Hi

UK Incoming Passenger List
Liverpool England July 1919
"Deseado"

Helen SHORTO 49
Mary SHORTO 12
Constance SHORTO 10
Ralph SHORTO 9
Wilfred SHORTO 7
Last country of permanant residence = Brazil

86 Whetstone Lane Birkenhead Cheshire... not sure about this address but wonder if it might be their intended address in England or the address of a relative in England.

Cheers
Karenlee

[karenlee]

With luck this is his brother Wilfred and maybe their father...

UK Incoming Passenger List
Southampton England July 1938
"Arlanza"

Embarked at Pernambuco
SHORTO Henry Ralph Trenchard aged 63 Merchant Last address Brazil
Address in England ...  Royal Bank of Canada 6 Lothbury London

SHORTO Wilfred Russell aged 28 Merchant Last address Brazil Address in England..... Bank of London and America 6 Tokenhouse Yard London

Looks as though both of these men travelled back and forward from Brazil to England.  One voyage in1935 gives their depature address as Recife.  Not finding Henry and Helen travelling together however.

Cheers
Karenlee

[RnD]

Hi Karen,
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was quick!!!
Thank you very much for the information.
You and your efforts on our behalf is appreciated.
Cheers,
Diane

[karenlee]

Hi

Ralph's birth is listed on FreeBMD.. if you order this certificate that should tell you who his parents were.

Cheers
Karenlee

[Dazey999]

Hi RnD

Here are some mentions from The Times newspaper:

17 Oct 1939 - Deaths
SHORTO On Oct 11 1939, suddenly, at Pernambuco, Brazil, Henry Ralph Shorto OBE

23 June 1941 - Marriages
SHORTO:RAE - On June 14 1941, at Peebles, Lieutenant Commander Ralph Russell Shorto, DSC RN, to Kathleen Mary Rae.

31 Oct 1945 - Births
SHORTO On Oct 29 1945, Reiverslaw, Peebles, to Kathleen (nee Rae) wife of Commander Ralph R Shorto RN, a son

27 Nov 1956 - Deaths
On 22 Nov 1956, in Naples, Captain Ralph Shorto, Royal Navy, elder son of Mrs H R Shorto, of Recife, Brazil

1 Nov 1938 - Forthcoming Marriages
Mr W R Shorto and Miss Rae
The engagement is announced between Wilfrid Russell, younger son of Mr & Mrs Henry R Shorto of Pernambuco, Brazil, and Lilian Margaret, eldest daughter of Mr & Mrs D M Rae of Reiverslaw, Peebles

16 Dec 1933 - Forthcoming Marriages
The engagement is announced between Lieutenant R R Shorto, Royal Navy, eldest son of H R Shorto OBE and Mrs Shorto of Pernambuco, Brazil, and Amy Margaret, eldest daughter of Mr & Mrs F James Deck, of Bichadero, Young, Uruguay

15 Apr 1935 - Forthcoming Marriages
Lieutenant-Commander W G Brittain RN and Miss Shorto
The engagement is announced between Geoffrey, elder son of Mr & Mrs W F Brittain, formerly of Port Elizabeth and now of Johannesburg, South Africa, and May Russell, elder daughter of Mr & Mrs H R Shorto of Pernambuco, Brazil



13 April 1966 - Deaths
On 8 April 1966 at Dartmouth, Helen Frances Shorto, aged 90, formerly of Recife, Brazil

Hope this helps - Dazey

[Dazey999]

Google Books has an entry in the Catholic Who's Who and Year Book 1952

http://www.rootschat.com/links/09up/

SHORTO, Comdr. Ralph Russell DSC RN, serving in HMS Thunderer, b.23 May 1908, son of Henry Ralph and Helen Frances Shorto, married 1941 Kathleen Mary Rae, 2 sons.  Educated St Anthony's Eastbourne & Downside.  Entered the Royal Navy 1926, served WW2.  Rec:  Golf, Cricket, Sailing, Motoring.  Address:  Manadon, Plymouth

[Dazey999]

This could be when he got his OBE:
London Gazette 30 March 1920
Henry Ralph Trenchard Shorto Esq
Manager of London and River Plate Bank, Sao Paulo

[DLC1]

Henry Ralph Trenchard Shorto was my great-uncle, the brother of my grand-mother, Maud Shorto, who died in Vancouver, Canada in 1949. She emigrated to Canada in 1913 and married Alex Seymour in Alberta. She had two daughters, Margaret and Dorothy Seymour. I was aware members of the Shorto family moved to Brazil but had no details as to what happened to that side of the family. I had been told that Capt Ralph Shorto had served on HMS Rodney during World War II.