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Offline Valda

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Re: Married ... or not!
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 10 August 10 13:32 BST (UK) »
Hi


GenesReunited has the 1911 census but it is owned by the same company that owns Findmypast (Brightsolds) so it is identical - you are redirected in essence to the Findmypast index and records.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,458831.msg3198234.html#msg3198234


The Genealogist website carefully doesn't say it has the 1911 census - it says new circa 1911 data

http://www.uk1911census.com/online.php

Not the same thing at all.


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Re: Married ... or not!
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 10 August 10 13:42 BST (UK) »
Hi


GenesReunited has the 1911 census but it is owned by the same company that owns Findmypast (Brightsolds) so it is identical - you are redirected in essence to the Findmypast index and records.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,458831.msg3198234.html#msg3198234


The Genealogist website carefully doesn't say it has the 1911 census - it says new circa 1911 data

http://www.uk1911census.com/online.php

Not the same thing at all.


Regards

Valda

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Re: Married ... or not!
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 10 August 10 22:27 BST (UK) »
Although theoretically all marriages wherever they took place should appear in the GRO indexes, some didn't.  There are instances of people finding marriages in parish registers that just aren't in the index.

Then there are marriages which are misindexed - my bro & sister in law's marriage in 1991 being one of them!

I have a gt grandmother who I am fairly certain would have married the man named as her 2nd husband.   I know she must have married between May 1879 when my gt grandfather died and Apr 1881 when she appears on the census with new surname.  This is borne out by info on 1911 census giving her marriage at about 1880.  But I can't find it!
Chowns in Buckinghamshire
Broad, Eplett & Pope in St Ervan/St Columb Major, Cornwall
Browning & Moore in Cambridge, St Andrew the Less
Emms, Mealing & Purvey in Cotswolds, Gloucestershire
Barnes, Dunt, Gray, Massingham in Norfolk
Higho in London
Matthews & Nash in Whichford, Warwickshire
Smoothy, Willsher in Coggeshall & Chelmsford, Essex

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Re: Married ... or not!
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 11 August 10 08:30 BST (UK) »
Hi

Surprisingly considering the book A Comedy of Errors

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/mikefost/

just how many errors the GRO index was prophecied to have, does not seem to have been borne out by the digitalisation of the London Metropolitan Archives and Guildhall Library parish registers and some local registrars indexes. Though there are errors in the GRO index of course, it seems not the level that this book claimed there would be.

FreeBMD has helped enormously with the misindexing issue giving you a chance to find the misindexed spouse.

Many people just did not marry (in some cases because there was an impediment to the marriage) or they married not quite in the names you expect, or much much later than you expect - despite what they may say for propriety's sake in records.



The 'orphanage' that Charles was in if it was the same one as Charlie Chaplin (who was taken into the poor law system - so a poor law institution)

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I can't get access to them, Valda.  It was Hanwell Community centre, and I believe he was there the same time as Charlie Chaplin.quote]

Charlie Chaplin in June 1896, after three weeks at the Lambeth workhouse with his brother Sydney was transferred to the Central London District School at Hanwell.

The Workhouse website has plenty of information on this poor law school

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/

use the search engine on the website (top left hand corner) and just type in Hanwell.

The website also lists some of the records available which are held at the London Metropolitan Archives

'City of London Guardians: Children sent to the CLDS, Hanwell: R to Z. (1876-1929)
Hackney Guardians: Children at Edmonton and Hanwell Schools (March 1883-October 1884, June 1887-August 1909)
Southwark Guardians: Children sent to Hanwell Schools (1865-March 1889)'



and

http://www.aim25.ac.uk/cgi-bin/vcdf/detail?coll_id=12938&inst_id=118&nv1=search&nv2=basic



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Valda
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« Reply #31 on: Thursday 12 August 10 15:41 BST (UK) »
 Yes Chaps, it was a 'poor law' school rather than an orphanage for kids without parents - he clearly DID have parents, as they nipped off to live in Cambridge with the youngest son!  The child Emily Hilda appears to have dies aged 4 in 1899 though.  Maybe that WHY they went to Cambridge!  To get over this death.  I think I'll request that cert, it'd be interesting to learn what Emily died from.

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