Married ... or not!

[flora-mae]

Hi

On Eleanor Adelaides Baptism they are Francis John and Orphah Eleanor.

AHH!!!!!!!!!!  Thank you!

Bet it doesn't state whether the parents are married though .....

Flora

[karenlee]

No it doesn't  but on Charles Henry's she's Orphah Helen and same on William George Frederick and Emily Hilda

[Valda]

Hi

Charles (my Grandfather) went into an 'Orphanage' in west London

Have you checked to see whether there are surviving records (if you know the name of the institution) as they may give more information?


Regards

Valda

[flora-mae]

No it doesn't  but on Charles Henry's she's Orphah Helen and same on William George Frederick and Emily Hilda

EMILY HILDA ??

now THAT'S a new one!!!???

F

[carol8353]

Have you found them in 1911- I know she was widowed by then,but wives often still give the number of years married.

Looks like she married(if she did) around 1885.Born out by the kids ages in 1891 too.

Carol

[flora-mae]

Hi

Charles (my Grandfather) went into an 'Orphanage' in west London

Have you checked to see whether there are surviving records (if you know the name of the institution) as they may give more information?


Regards

Valda

I can't get access to them, Valda.  It was what is now the Hanwell Community centre, and I believe he was there the same time as Charlie Chaplin.

Flora

[Eyesee]

She used both here

St Peter, Regent Square, Camden
1887 Sep 25, Eleanor Adelaide, d/o Francis John & Orphah Eleanor HANCOCK, 4 Marchmont St, Carman, born 1887 Sep 4

St Paul Lisson Grove Westminster
1893 Feb 5, William George Frederick, s/o Francis John & Orpha Helen HANCOCK, 143 Portman Buildings, Hostler
1894 Nov 18, Emily Hilda, d/o Francis John & Orpha Helen HANCOCK, 143 Portman Buildings, Carman, born 1894 Oct 7

See they are back in Cambridgeshire by 1901.

With having children baptised in CofE churches they are not likely to be Non-Conformists.

Her maiden name was BATSTONE or BALSTONE by the look of it. Birth registered as Ellen Orpha BATSTONE, Sep qtr 1857, Chard, 5c 471

There is an Ellen BATSTONE marriage in 1887, but there is only one grooms name. Can't see either name anywhere else, so it is possible they never married, but lived together as husband and wife. It did happen in those times.

Ian C

[flora-mae]

Have you found them in 1911- I know she was widowed by then,but wives often still give the number of years married.

Looks like she married(if she did) around 1885.Born out by the kids ages in 1891 too.

Carol

I've not yet found a reasonably priced website that gives access to the 1911 census, so haven't viewed it yet.

F

[carol8353]

I see that she died as Orpha E Hancock in Uxbridge in Sep 1939 aged 82.

Carol