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Re: Joseph Kelly uniform ???
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 12 August 10 22:14 BST (UK) »
hmm the Fleming is confusing me  as this name does not show on any census records Monica found for me  it only showed all my grand father sibling with  one christian name only .

 but in saying that I do know my mother was given a family surname as a 2ND christian name after a married aunt of my grandfathers and , do know with Scottish family this was a common practise and still is with my 1st cousin being given  her fathers mothers  surname as a 2ND christian name as was her father
Thomas Kelly   Peterheadknown as Tom son know as tommy
James Kelly Bellshill
Williaminia Kell nee Barclay peterhead/ Leeds ?
Martha Daze Edinburgh
Jessie Cussie Peterhead
Isabella Barclay  Lonmay? possible know as Isobella Cassie at some time as well
William Barclay Banffsh
John Carson 1821  Cambusland aged 60
Elisabeth wife daughter Also Elisabeth who married James Kelly and had 6 children
sarah kelly 13
thomas kelly 11
John kelly  10
Richard Kelly  6  Martha Kelly 1 became M Daze

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Re: Joseph Kelly uniform ???
« Reply #10 on: Friday 13 August 10 13:31 BST (UK) »
Leonora
They dont always show the second name in the census returns and sometimes they call them something different depending on what the family calls them!  They even get the name wrong... 
Yes the S/5030 is his service number and yes he could have been transferred from one Regt to another.  When a whole Battalion was devastated during battles individuals might end up anywhere even in Regiments they felt no attachment to.
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Re: Joseph Kelly uniform ???
« Reply #11 on: Friday 13 August 10 13:37 BST (UK) »
yes it does thank you now to try and find his wife and child  next project  ;D
Thomas Kelly   Peterheadknown as Tom son know as tommy
James Kelly Bellshill
Williaminia Kell nee Barclay peterhead/ Leeds ?
Martha Daze Edinburgh
Jessie Cussie Peterhead
Isabella Barclay  Lonmay? possible know as Isobella Cassie at some time as well
William Barclay Banffsh
John Carson 1821  Cambusland aged 60
Elisabeth wife daughter Also Elisabeth who married James Kelly and had 6 children
sarah kelly 13
thomas kelly 11
John kelly  10
Richard Kelly  6  Martha Kelly 1 became M Daze

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Re: Joseph Kelly uniform ???
« Reply #12 on: Friday 13 August 10 13:43 BST (UK) »
In this case, any transfer for him between regiments was pre-war.
His medal card (detailing his war service) only lists the Royal Highlanders (Black Watch)
Name interests: Boulton, Murrell, Lock, Croxton, Skinner, Blewett, Tonkin, Trathen.
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Re: Joseph Kelly uniform ???
« Reply #13 on: Friday 13 August 10 13:48 BST (UK) »
have you found a copy of his medal card at all ? I had my grandfathers sent to me on private message I think from  rootcast staff member.

 I am also presuming he was buried in France as there were possible to many killed to send the body's home .
Thomas Kelly   Peterheadknown as Tom son know as tommy
James Kelly Bellshill
Williaminia Kell nee Barclay peterhead/ Leeds ?
Martha Daze Edinburgh
Jessie Cussie Peterhead
Isabella Barclay  Lonmay? possible know as Isobella Cassie at some time as well
William Barclay Banffsh
John Carson 1821  Cambusland aged 60
Elisabeth wife daughter Also Elisabeth who married James Kelly and had 6 children
sarah kelly 13
thomas kelly 11
John kelly  10
Richard Kelly  6  Martha Kelly 1 became M Daze

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Re: Joseph Kelly uniform ???
« Reply #14 on: Friday 13 August 10 14:31 BST (UK) »
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have you found a copy of his medal card at all ?

Easily found.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=3371043&queryType=1&resultcount=1

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I am also presuming he was buried in France

Again easily found. I mentioned CWGC before
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=586247
Name interests: Boulton, Murrell, Lock, Croxton, Skinner, Blewett, Tonkin, Trathen.
Military History & Medals

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Re: Joseph Kelly uniform ???
« Reply #15 on: Friday 13 August 10 16:01 BST (UK) »
 I have a problem  i paid to down load the record card and got  to this

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Thomas Kelly   Peterheadknown as Tom son know as tommy
James Kelly Bellshill
Williaminia Kell nee Barclay peterhead/ Leeds ?
Martha Daze Edinburgh
Jessie Cussie Peterhead
Isabella Barclay  Lonmay? possible know as Isobella Cassie at some time as well
William Barclay Banffsh
John Carson 1821  Cambusland aged 60
Elisabeth wife daughter Also Elisabeth who married James Kelly and had 6 children
sarah kelly 13
thomas kelly 11
John kelly  10
Richard Kelly  6  Martha Kelly 1 became M Daze

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Re: Joseph Kelly uniform ???
« Reply #16 on: Friday 13 August 10 16:15 BST (UK) »
on the site listing his death is says wife Jessie Bradley formaly Kelly

  findign this a little confusing   does this mean she was a Bradley  before she married  Josephe Kelly or could this be   her remarrying ?

 sorry I am new to all these documents
Thomas Kelly   Peterheadknown as Tom son know as tommy
James Kelly Bellshill
Williaminia Kell nee Barclay peterhead/ Leeds ?
Martha Daze Edinburgh
Jessie Cussie Peterhead
Isabella Barclay  Lonmay? possible know as Isobella Cassie at some time as well
William Barclay Banffsh
John Carson 1821  Cambusland aged 60
Elisabeth wife daughter Also Elisabeth who married James Kelly and had 6 children
sarah kelly 13
thomas kelly 11
John kelly  10
Richard Kelly  6  Martha Kelly 1 became M Daze

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Re: Joseph Kelly uniform ???
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 15 August 10 22:49 BST (UK) »
Sounds like she remarried but it would have been more likely after he died as divorce was not very common in those days as only the upper classes could afford it...
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