Looking for the COURTIS family

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Yes Rosie that is my gran Lillian. Her birthday was in October.

Thank  you
Bren

[rosie99]

Yes Rosie that is my gran Lillian. Her birthday was in October.

Thank  you
Bren

If she was born in October the birth should have been registered in the 4th quarter ending December 
Perhaps the entries over ran ... 
So if this is your Lilian then she did not have St John registered as part of her name, there are certainly no other candidates on the registers.


Rosie

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Hi Rosie,
It is definitely the Lillian I was looking for.  The St John could have been the parish they were from in Cornwall.  I have no idea though as my dad (born out here in SA) did have it registered in his name and I always thought Lillian had St John in hers.  So strange.

Thank you
B

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How would I go about obtaining info on the marriage cert for William and Annie to take this further down the line.

My late father (Dudley) had an older brother (Reginald) who was killed in action during WWII  ,,, Both Hilda and Audrey only had one daughter each ,,, both of which passed away decades ago ,, so there is no way I am able to obtain anything furhter down the line other than from William and Annie's marriage cert and or dob.   I don't even know how or when they arrived here in South Africa.

Thanks
BCC (Bren)

[rutht22000]

Am not sure William and Annie is our connection

William C G Courtis was born in 1874, which was prior to the marriage of James Goldsworthy Courtis and  Rebecca in 1878. 

James Goldsworthy was born in 1855, making him about 23 and Rebecca was about 17 or 18 on marriage.  James would have had to been married before and a father at 19 (which is possible...)

I wonder, as James and Rebecca's eldest 2 children were not born in England if they were back and forth all the time between the UK and SA which allows for them to be missing on the remaining census returns; even with all different spellings of their names I can think of. 

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Rosie

Which ship was it that you found the family going out to SA on in 1914?

Only because I think I've got them coming back in Plymouth from Capetown in May 1914.  Miss H Courtis aged 16 and Miss L Courtis aged 15 (reversing them around from the voyage out?)  Last permanent residence was Cape.

[rosie99]

Hi

I wonder if they were even sisters 

There is a possible marriage on freebmd for William and Annie
June qtr 1901  Devonport  5b 694   
 
CHAMBERLAIN  William James   
Courtis  William Charles     
Kyle  Annie     
NICHOLS  Jane Elizabeth     
RYLE  Annie

Rosie   

[rutht22000]

Something that also occurred was whether they were James and Rebecca's own children rather than grandchildren.   Rebecca would still have been young enough in 1900 to have Lilian then but if they were grandchildren they could only really be James Jnrs, but I can't find him getting married in the UK.

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Rosie

Which ship was it that you found the family going out to SA on in 1914?

Only because I think I've got them coming back in Plymouth from Capetown in May 1914.  Miss H Courtis aged 16 and Miss L Courtis aged 15 (reversing them around from the voyage out?)  Last permanent residence was Cape.

Sorry I only had the year as I only looked on the index, it was Liverpool to Cape Town

Rosie