Crew List "Waikato" Plymouth - NZ 1877 *COMPLETED*

[Canterburynorth]

fifer,

Did you know there are two trees on GenesReunited with Alexander and Jane.

[fifer1947]

fifer,

Did you know there are two trees on GenesReunited with Alexander and Jane.

Will go look, thanks!

[fifer1947]

Neither of them have the correct year of birth for Alexander and don't have Jane's maiden name listed.    If they had the census data from 1841, or marriage certificate from 1871, they would know his year of birth +/- 1 year.  I'm not a full member on GenesReunited so I cannot contact either poster or view their full tree. 

I have found that a lot of information on some "Alexander Gollans" relates directly back to my free to view tree on Rootsweb ........ I suspect there's a lot of plagiarism and/or wishful thinking going on!   

There seem to be quite a few folk nowadays whose sole motive in genealogy is "collecting" as many people as possible to their tree by relying on others' work, without doing the research or verifying the data etc themselves. 

Sadly, they are probably giving any interested future generations one huge headache!   

[fifer1947]

Woo! Woo! I've spoken to the lovely Sandra at the Watt Library in Greenock, she is almost as excited as me!  She is going to check out the microfilm and try to scan it for me and hopefully that will be with me by the end of next week.

Fingers crossed this article gives more than just basic details! 

[alamar]

Hi Fifer

Glad to see you are making progress.

When I looked at Leandra's photo of the marriage record for Euphemia, I was struck by the regular references to 20 St Asaph St and Mrs Pinnion. It appears from PapersPast that she was some sort of nurse who came from London around 1885 and operated some sort of nursing and orphanage service. Did Mrs Pinnion look after the Gollan chidren after their parents left or was she simply Euphemia's employer?

Alan

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=q&hs=1&r=1&results=1&t=0&txq=pinnion&pbq=TS&dafdq=01&dafmq=01&dafyq=1881&datdq=31&datmq=12&datyq=1921&tyq=&o=10&sf=byDA&ssnip=&ssnip=on&x=37&y=9&e=01-01-1881-31-12-1901--10-TS-1-byDA-on--0pinnion--

[fifer1947]

I *think* just an employer (although I am bearing in mind that Euphemia herself had an illegitimate child in 1898) I do suspect that Mrs Pinnion befriended and took care of Euphemia, probably treated her like family - that's just a feeling I get.  Perhaps because of her past Euphemia felt drawn to Mrs Pinnion?

The children were left in the care of a Mrs Howard by Alexander probably in 1883/4 and it was she who committed them to Burnham in 1884 because she had received no money from Alexander.  They must have spent many years at Burnham, as the youngest Richard was born in 1880, he would not have been released until 1894/5, prior to Euphemia's marriage to George Greaves.

[alamar]

Hi again Fifer

Some references to the Erskine's voyage from Glasgow and to two events after it arrived, one of which refers to Alexander. All of these are prior to the arrival of the Waikato.

Alan



The Erskine leaves Glasgow but has to put in to Belfast
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=TS18760306.2.3.3&srpos=10&e=01-01-1874-30-12-1877--10-TS-1-byDA-on--0erskine--

The arrival date in Lyttelton
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=TS18760510.2.3.1&srpos=11&e=01-01-1874-30-12-1877--10-TS-11-byDA-on--0erskine--

A serious drunken incident on board the Erskine
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=TS18760605.2.10.2&srpos=12&e=01-01-1874-30-12-1877--10-TS-11-byDA-on--0erskine--

A ship's boat sailing race in which Erskines boat is commanded by "Gollan". They won the rereace.
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=TS18770102.2.17&srpos=16&e=01-01-1874-30-12-1877--10-TS-11-byDA-on--0erskine--

[fifer1947]

That is fabulous Alan! 

I'm now wondering if the £10 prize money for the boat race was the money he used to bring his family out to NZ.

The other report into drunkness and assault aboard sounds like typical sailors of the day! 

[fifer1947]

And even a report of the Tsunami of 1877

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=TS18770512.2.15&srpos=21&e=01-01-1874-30-12-1877--10-TS-21-byDA-on--0erskine--