St Giles With Cripple Gate Census 1841-1851

[texasjoe]

Looking for Thomas Cook  prosession  Baker listed on his sons marriage certificate of 1847 Thomas Cook married Mary Anne Jones 25.12.1847


Living in Moor Lane  St Giles with Crpplegate East London during that period

Thomas Cook ( Senior )  Baker
Thomas Cook ( son ) profession  Potter Merchant
David Jones ( Mary Anne Jones ) Farrier

all this it listsed on the marriage certificate

Would like to find more on the wives of Thomas Cook ( Sen ) & David Jones ?
and where they lived

[Valda]

Hi

There are quite a few Thomas Cooks in London. Do you have Thomas and his wife Mary Ann on any censuses, or have any further information on them - names of children, to help track them to track back from them.


Regards

Valda

[Eyesee]

The witnesses at the marriage were Frederick and Susan WINDSOR.

Frederick WINDSOR married Susanna JONES at St Giles Cripplegate on 2 Nov 1841. Her father is given as James JONES, farrier. Their address is Moor Lane, with is the same as Thomas COOK and Mary Ann JONES.

Susanna was born St Giles c1826 according to 1851, and her mother was Elizabeth, a widow.

Can't seem to find them earlier, but would suspect there is some connection between Susanna and Mary Ann.

Ian C

[Meliora]

I have checked the 1851 census for Moor Lane St Giles Cripplegate.  This comes under the City of London in piece no HO107/1525 scattered thro' various folios, 72-78,79-81,84, 85-87,90-91, 91-92.

No-one by the name of Cook or Jones found.

The only other census info found was.
1881 census
RG11/450  folio 69 page 31
4, Mayfield Buildings St George in the East.

Thomas Cook   head  age 51  Stone Mason b Whitechapel
Mary ann  wife  ahe 48    b  St George in the East.
William  son age 14   b  ditto

The profession Stone Mason could relate to the one of Potter Merchant.

Meliora

[Meliora]

Have now checked the 1841 census..

1841 census
HO107/727   book 3   folios,  4, 8, 12-13, 17-18

Unfortunately,  no-one by the name of Cook or Jones found

It is possible the neither the Cook or Jones familes were actually living in Moor Lane but was simply an "address of convenience"  I have come across this myslf in my own research, strangly enough, with two marriages at St Giles Cripplegate.   St Giles is actually within the Barbican area of the City of London, my two families were living at the north end of Goswell road, part of which is Clerkenwell & part Islington.  Today the St Giles church which was rebuilt when the Barbican area was redeveloped is close to Aldersgate Street a coninutation of which to the north is Goswell Road.  My families gave the name of a road quite close to St Giles but were certainly not living there as I have them on census in Goswell Road, why they should have wished to be married at St Giles I don't know, it may have been something to do with the banns being called for 3 weeks before the wedding. If the had given their correst address, the banns would have to have been called at two churches.

Something I did notice on the marriage of Thomas Cook to Mary Ann Jones was that it took place on Christmas Day.   Many marriages were arranged for that day if any one if the family worked in a shop as it was sometimes the only day they were sure of having free,  & Thomas' father was a butcher perhaps in a shop..

Meliora

[texasjoe]

As I stated that this is the oly information that I have is what is one the Marriage certificate

Would it be possible to find out where they may have lived , as in 1858 Thomas & Mary Ann Cook left England with their 2 daughters  Elizabeth Cook, Mary Ann Cook on the ship the " Mary Ann " bound for New Zealand


Mary Ann Cook nee Jones died in 1870 at the age of 41

Elizabeth Cook was the youngest age was 19 in 1871 when she married

Maybe on the 1851 Census
Mary Ann Cook was the elder and married in 1867

On the Death certificate of Thomas Cook place of birth is listed as London
age when he married is given as 20 years old
Thomas Cook died in 1899 at the age of 76  Bell Block Taranaki New Zealand


Is Middlesex close to St Giles With  Cripplegate


So from 1847 to 1858 after they married I have no idea where they lived except what is listed on the marriage certificate

[Valda]

Hi

This looks the nearest on the 1851 census

1851 census HO107 15?6 folio 179
9 Northumberland Place Clerkenwell Middlesex
Thomas Cook 27 Head Married Porter in glass warehouse St Martins
Mary Cook 21 Wife Married Bloomsbury
Mary Ann Cook 2 Daughter St Bartholomew


St Thomas, Charterhouse Islington 18th April 1851 born 26th December 1849
Mary Ann Cook parents Thomas and Mary Ann, 9 Northumberland Road, father's occupation porter

St Giles Cripplegate 29th February 1852 born 20th January
Elizabeth Cook parents Thomas and Mary Ann, 3 Cloth Fair, father's occupation porter


Regards

Valda

[texasjoe]

Hi Valda


It looks very good , good work

texasjoe

[Valda]

Hi

There may have been another child

9th April 1854 St Bartholomew the Great City of London born 9th January
Thomas Cook parents Thomas and Mary Ann, 28 Bartholomew Close, father's occupation coal dealer

Births Mar 1854   
Cook  Thomas    W London  1c 49
possible death registration   
Deaths Dec 1855 
Cook  Thomas     W. London  1c 41

St Giles Cripplegate would also register as a City of London birth

Births Mar 1852  Cook  Elizabeth    West London  1c 50


Thomas' senior's baptism

18th May 1823 Saint Martin In The Fields, Westminster
Thomas Cook parents Thomas and Martha Maria, 2 Banbury Court Long Acre, father's occupation Baker


siblings

15th April 1821 Saint Martin In The Fields, Westminster, London
Martha Sarah Cook parents Thomas and Martha Maria, 2 Banbury Court, father's occupation Baker 

13th February 1825  Saint Martin In The Fields, Westminster, London
William George Cook parents Thomas and Martha Maria, 2 Long Acre Place, father's occupation Baker

28th May 1820 St George, Hanover Square
Thomas Cook   
Martha Maria Pope
Both of the parish, bachelor and spinster
Married by banns
Both signed
Witnesses John Robinson Cook and Sarah Elizabeth Cook


Regards

Valda