Barnardos boy

[shogun10333]

Im not sure if Im posting this on the correct forum, but here goes:
My partners grandfather was a Dr. Barnardos boy. He was born on 8th October 1893 (according to his Army records), in London England.  We dont know what year he came over to Canada, or how old he was when he came over, but he enlisted in the 26th Canadian Infantry, his Army number was 412335. He had a medical to join the armed forces on Feb 22nd 1915, and gave his address as 202 Sherborne Street, Toronto. his next of kin was given as Mrs Henry Hoover, Harold, RR2, Ontario, and his occupation as farm labourer.  Could anyone give us any help at all with finding out when he came over, and what ship he came on.  The only person that could have helped us is my partners mother, but she has Alzheimers and cant remember anything.
Any help whatsoever would be greatly appreciated.
Julie

[Hollander]

Do we have a name for him, Julie?

[shogun10333]

DUH!!  lol, sorry, yes - his name was THOMAS YOUNG

Julie

[Hollander]

DUH!! 

 

Hi Julie.

I've checked Ancestry passenger lists in a likely timeframe, but have been unable to find a likely Thomas Young.

This link may be of help:-

http://www.barnardos.org.uk/who_we_are/history/family_history_service/family_history_service_trace_your_family_history.htm

[shogun10333]

Thank you so much.  I have filled in the search form, and will wait to see what happens.  I realise that with the information we have, it is quite likely we will have little or no success with this.

[cosmac]

http://www.rootschat.com/links/09ig/
That number seems to be linked to 2 records with the same name and birth date.  One that you quoted showing Mrs. Henry Hoover and signing up in Belleville and then one where Thomas is living at 202 Shelbourne St. Toronto and shows his next of kin as wife Eva and also a leg amputation.
I'm confused

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/home-children/index-e.html
There are a few possibles for Thomas Young from this database.

I don't see a marriage for Thomas Young to an Eva but there is a June 25, 1923 marriage for an Eva Young (nee Charles) at Hamilton Ontario.

Debbie

[shogun10333]

Hi Debbie,
We looked up his army records, and he joined up twice, the second time he had the leg amputation.  The first time he signed up he was married to Eva (his first wife), the second time is when he put Mrs Henry Hoover down as his next of kin.  I looked on the Government site, and there were two that were very possiblem and one (who was 19) that I dont think is him, the family seem to think he came over as a young boy.
I feel a little overwhelmed with this to be honest, and am not sure where to go now with the two possibles.  I know his second wife was called Elsie ( I think her maiden name was Horkin) and hthey had two children, Irene Constance, and the boys name I will have to get back to you with (I think it was Leroy but I may be wrong).

Thanks for the look ups, I really appreciate it, like I said, I am a little overwehelmed due to the lack of information.

Julie

[cosmac]

http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/View.jsp?id=138671&highlight=27&desc=1911+Census+of+Canada+page+containing+Thomas+Young

This entry in the 1911 census shows an immigration year of 1902 and a birth in Oct 1894.  The location in Seymour Northumberland East puts this in an area northwest of Belleville.  I can't find a location for Harold but it seems to have existed or still exists in the same county as Belleville.

There is a Thomas Young coming over as a Barnardo boy in 1902 on the Colonian which docked in Portland, Maine Oct 6, 1902.  The passenger list gives his age as 7 but the Home Children list indexes it as 8.  On the same boat is a 13 year old George Young.  No destination is given - just Canada.

This Thomas Young is also a possibility
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/View.jsp?id=90937&highlight=47&desc=1911+Census+of+Canada+page+containing+Thomas+Young

Debbie

[jorose]

Since he married Eva between 1915 and 1918, he may have married her outside Canada while serving?

Do you have the full army records? (not just what is online but the complete file which you can order from the archives). There might be more information there. See http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~brett/cef/cefpapertrail.html
I'd imagine there would be quite the list of medical documents given his amputation.

Harold, Ontario is now in Stirling-Rawdon Township, Ontario (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling-Rawdon,_Ontario ), which makes this likely for Mrs (and Mr) Henry Hoover:
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/View.jsp?id=140130&highlight=5&desc=1911+Census+of+Canada+page+containing+Henry+Hoover
The census record found by Debbie in Seymour would certainly be close to them.

www.archive.org has quite a few old Toronto directories online.

I would suggest first trying to track down his two marriages. His army records might help you figure out where he was between his first and second sign-ups, as presumably he married somewhere in there. If you have some idea of when the children of the second marriage were born that gives you an estimate of when to look for that.