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Re: What happened to Malvina and Mary Ann Harvey?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 19:34 BST (UK) »
They were definitely working class, although if I remember correctly either the 1861 census or the 1871 census had a servant girl living with them. The father, Isaac, was a journeyman baker. I've found a bankruptcy report for him in the London Gazette in the late 1860s. The 1881 census Isaac working for someone else, where as previously he was the master baker, and shows the sisters as being charwomen. I'm wondering if the sisters either emmigrated or became involved in the dregs of society and died as unknowns. Their brother Joseph (my 3xgreat grandfather) emmigrated to Canada in 1906 with his wife and children (all but my 2xgreat grandmother) but he was following his eldest son out there who had been in the British Army and then joined the Canadian Army.
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Wolverhampton, Islington: Billingsley
Hammersmith, Manchester, Kent, Islington: Smith
Yorkshire: Hauxwell, Woodward, Butterfield
Darlington: Theakston
Essex: Harvey, Stock, Mead
Kent: Strong
Wokingham, Hammersmith: Thorpe
Oxfordshire: Rawlin(g)s, Johnson, Humphries, Curtis, Pope, Bossom, Simpson

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Re: What happened to Malvina and Mary Ann Harvey?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 19:45 BST (UK) »
so if they emigrated would they already have relatives out there by the time they went missing ??  t
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Re: What happened to Malvina and Mary Ann Harvey?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 20:10 BST (UK) »
No, Malvina and Mary Ann disappeared sometime after 1881. Joseph's son went to Canada in 1901 and the rest of the family followed in 1906.
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Wolverhampton, Islington: Billingsley
Hammersmith, Manchester, Kent, Islington: Smith
Yorkshire: Hauxwell, Woodward, Butterfield
Darlington: Theakston
Essex: Harvey, Stock, Mead
Kent: Strong
Wokingham, Hammersmith: Thorpe
Oxfordshire: Rawlin(g)s, Johnson, Humphries, Curtis, Pope, Bossom, Simpson

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Re: What happened to Malvina and Mary Ann Harvey?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 19 August 10 10:38 BST (UK) »
Hi,

There's a 1932 will for a Malvina Maria Mann of London referenced here in the London Gazette - although apparently no suitable Mann-Harvey marriage: http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/33789/pages/320

There's also the widowed Malvina Maria Goldsobel referenced here  in 1923 (column 2): http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/32859/pages/6029

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Re: What happened to Malvina and Mary Ann Harvey?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 19 August 10 12:13 BST (UK) »
There is a death for a Malvina HARVEY, Mar qtr 1895, Medway, 2a 486, age 38. Age is a little out but a possibility?

Maybe not, there is a Malvina HARVEY born 1857, wife of Henry, living in Rochester in 1891.

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Re: What happened to Malvina and Mary Ann Harvey?
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 19 August 10 12:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Ian,

The Malvina Harvey who died in Kent is not my Malvina. There is also a Malvina Maria Leeper (of hte same age as my Malvina) who married a Mr Viner in the right area of London in 1881, but having searched back on the census records she is also not my Malvina.

My Malvina has just disappeared!
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Wolverhampton, Islington: Billingsley
Hammersmith, Manchester, Kent, Islington: Smith
Yorkshire: Hauxwell, Woodward, Butterfield
Darlington: Theakston
Essex: Harvey, Stock, Mead
Kent: Strong
Wokingham, Hammersmith: Thorpe
Oxfordshire: Rawlin(g)s, Johnson, Humphries, Curtis, Pope, Bossom, Simpson