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Passenger list TAY 1, Samuel watson SUGDEN
« on: Wednesday 18 August 10 13:06 BST (UK) »
A friend of mine is trying to trace details of an ancestor of hers ( grandfather) called Samuel Watson SUGDEN. He left England from Hull in July 1913 bound for Sydney. Apperently he used the name W SUGDEN. He arrived there in October of that year. If anyone could help Thanks
ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.uk<br /><br />SOMERSET: POPE, GRIFFITHS, FLOYD,BAKER, LYDDON,QUICK,CHEEK(CHEECK)<br />DERBYSHIRE:/NOTTS; GENT,CLIFFORD,SIMMS,BINGHAM, DAYKIN, JOHNSON. FOX, HOPKINSON, COOKE, DOVE<br />SEDGLEY: HICKMAN, PALMER<br />YORKSHIRE: INMAN,BOTTOMLEY,MILNES.JESSOP

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Re: Passenger list TAY 1, Samuel watson SUGDEN
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 13:12 BST (UK) »
It would be helpful if you listed his parents names,  date & place of birth so we can look for a marriage or death, there are a lot of SUGDEN's in the indexes of various states of Australia :)

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Re: Passenger list TAY 1, Samuel watson SUGDEN
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 16:49 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that. I have requested the details and  I'll post them when I get them.I understand he was already married but he left his wife and children in Britain. Thanks for the interest.  Regards Trevor
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Re: Passenger list TAY 1, Samuel watson SUGDEN
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 18:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Merlin, Samuel SUGDEN was born 23.9.1885 in Hull, His father Watson SUGDEN, born Idle 1857, Mother Harriet KIDD, born at OULTON 1856. Samuels children were Alice 1880, Sarah kathleen 1883, Mary Constance 1887 and George William.  Thanks,  Trevor
ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.uk<br /><br />SOMERSET: POPE, GRIFFITHS, FLOYD,BAKER, LYDDON,QUICK,CHEEK(CHEECK)<br />DERBYSHIRE:/NOTTS; GENT,CLIFFORD,SIMMS,BINGHAM, DAYKIN, JOHNSON. FOX, HOPKINSON, COOKE, DOVE<br />SEDGLEY: HICKMAN, PALMER<br />YORKSHIRE: INMAN,BOTTOMLEY,MILNES.JESSOP


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Re: Passenger list TAY 1, Samuel watson SUGDEN
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 23:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Trevor,

Samuel died 3 Oct 1918 as result of wounds he received in action WWI.

He had changed his named to John/Jack Sugden when he enlisted in the AIF, service no: 51455.

There is a Red Cross file on him which includes hand written letters from his parents Watson & Harriet Sugden here:

http://www.awm.gov.au/cms_images/1DRL428/00034/1DRL428-00034-2660603.pdf

The NAA also have a large file on his service history you can search here:

http://www.naa.gov.au/index.aspx




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Re: Passenger list TAY 1, Samuel watson SUGDEN
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 19 August 10 08:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Merlin, I can't believe you found out all that in such a short time. I am most grateful and I know my friend, who has been having difficulty with tracing ancestors, will be overwhelmed. We cannot thank you enough. Best regards Trevor
ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.uk<br /><br />SOMERSET: POPE, GRIFFITHS, FLOYD,BAKER, LYDDON,QUICK,CHEEK(CHEECK)<br />DERBYSHIRE:/NOTTS; GENT,CLIFFORD,SIMMS,BINGHAM, DAYKIN, JOHNSON. FOX, HOPKINSON, COOKE, DOVE<br />SEDGLEY: HICKMAN, PALMER<br />YORKSHIRE: INMAN,BOTTOMLEY,MILNES.JESSOP

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Re: Passenger list TAY 1, Samuel watson SUGDEN
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 19 August 10 08:46 BST (UK) »
Your welcome  :)

I forgot to give you his burial:

Name: SUGDEN, JOHN
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry, A.I.F.
Unit Text: 22nd Bn.
Date of Death: 03/10/1918
Service No: 51455
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. N. 8.
Cemetery: BELLICOURT BRITISH CEMETERY

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Re: Passenger list TAY 1, Samuel watson SUGDEN
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 19 August 10 09:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Merlin, Thanks for that . I have visited the CWWGC and downloaded a memerial of him and I have read the letters. I am, however, having difficulty in accessing his service record. I have registered and initiated a search but it just comes back as server error. I have tried several times without success. I suppose it could be a problem on their side.  Regards Trevor
ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.uk<br /><br />SOMERSET: POPE, GRIFFITHS, FLOYD,BAKER, LYDDON,QUICK,CHEEK(CHEECK)<br />DERBYSHIRE:/NOTTS; GENT,CLIFFORD,SIMMS,BINGHAM, DAYKIN, JOHNSON. FOX, HOPKINSON, COOKE, DOVE<br />SEDGLEY: HICKMAN, PALMER<br />YORKSHIRE: INMAN,BOTTOMLEY,MILNES.JESSOP

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Re: Passenger list TAY 1, Samuel watson SUGDEN
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 19 August 10 09:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Trevor,

The NAA online records seem to be down at the moment, so you are not doing anything wrong  :)

Probably doing some maintenance... just try again later.

There are 77 pages in his file  :o