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Re: Metis / Saskatchewan family research
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 24 August 10 05:16 BST (UK) »
So here is what I was able to find out from the obituary and attestation papers, etc.

Joseph Amey Henry was born November 25, 1894 in Winnipeg, MB (although the obituary says Batoche).  He was a veteran of WW1 of the 65th Canadian Infantry Battalion; Attestation paper here:

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-119.02-e.php?image_url=http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc006/392773a.gif&id_nbr=455198

His next of kin he lists as his mother, Rose Henry (mom's middle name was Rose).  Amey moved to the Saskatoon area in 1928, having a daughter Kathleen die in 1924/9.  He had a sister who died earlier than 1965.  The obituary mentions a sister Flora Vandale, Victoria, and 2 brothers Walter/Stanley.

Margaret Legare
 16 Nov 1964
 Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Age: 74y
Born: 28 May 1890
Charles Eugene Legare
Father: Henry
Mother: Rose Marie Vermette

Walter was said to be living in Calgary born 1906.  I was able to pull a burial record for him in 1985 here.

St. Mary's Calgary Henry Marie L. 1904-1989 O
St. Mary's Calgary Henry Walter J. 1906-1985 O

I can't post the findings of the Gerald because some members might be living.

Cheers,

Jeff

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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 24 August 10 15:23 BST (UK) »
Yeah, I never thought of attestation, Jeff. But just shows how off the info can be, doesn't it?
In 1901 brother Pierre ( Peter) is down as born Manitoba, Catherine as born Alta, and all other children born Sask.
1911 also had Joseph as born Sask. His birth cert says born Sask. ( they no longer list the place of birth, only Province, to prompt sending for the information, I imagine)  Odd that he would say Manitoba. Could be that the children were never informed of their birthplace. Certainly not impossible for him to have been born in Manitoba, but could you register in another Province back then? kinda doubt it.  Marie Marguerite's birth isn't on the vital stats database...
Note that Victoria's also registered as Marie Victoria...another French Catholic tradition. (Everyone is Marie...thus Marie Rose/Rose-Marie...wait until you get into the Drouins!)
here is the 1891
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1891/001081-119.02-e.php?person_id_nbr=4770873
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« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 24 August 10 15:40 BST (UK) »
Oh, another thing ...Hubby sent for his long form and it said his father was born England, I kid you not!!!...hehe, hard to get metis status that way, huh!!! So make sure the information you know IS correct that is printed on your long form. They had duplicated where his mother was born...and the mistake wasn't made back then! No...when he applied for the long form just recently!!! so...Just how vital ARE those statistics?  :P  J.J.
 
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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 03 November 10 00:01 GMT (UK) »
Today I have spent hours searching census records and some other sites suggested by you guys.  I wanted to search for myself just to familiarise myself with how info is laid out and where to look.

I am pleased to say that I found a lot of info which you all supplied.

One record I did NOT find was the 1911 census with the names Emiele, Jerona, Stenly!  Not to take away from anyone elses results but that one impressed me a lot.  Terrific find and it's one that seems to bring everything else together for me confirming I'm on the correct track.

Another impressive bit of info is that supplied by Jeffster re the obituary etc.  Where did you find all that?  Was that manual research rather than online?  I wonder how I could obtain copies?

Thanks to each and everone of you for your assistance and determined efforts.  It is greatly appreciated and I know my friend Martin will be delighted.  Sorry not to mention you all by name.

Dave
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ROONEY (Co Down, Co Antrim) 
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« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 03 November 10 20:56 GMT (UK) »
PS to my earlier post.  With your help we got my friends paternal line back to Alexander Henry the elder (b1735)
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Henry_%28the_elder%29 ).  Martin is his 3xgreat grandson.


As expected, Martin was delighted.  He knows I made use of the knowledge on this site and I think it appropriate to pass on his thanks to all of you.  I quote...

"Hi Dave!
I am totally dumbstruck. Some of this stuff is amazing and I am peeing myself with excitement - the story about Jerome being shot is wonderful and weirdly emotional for me. I have a thing I downloaded ages ago from some Metis cultural site (it's in French) that tells the story of Pierre Henry (who I now know to be Jeromes/Williams brother) at the Battle of Batoche and his escape - I must get it scanned onto the website or try to find where I got it from and give the info to you cos you might have more success finding more (the French might be a problem!!!).  Pierre is obviously the one who Riel made a member of teh Provisional Government prior to the Rebellion. Alexander Henry was (I think) quite famous as someone who opened up the Canadian frontier and trading routes (I've heard of him before but didn't think he was one of my Henrys cos he was from New Jersey). Some of the women in the family sound interesting too - no shirkers there - these were women that FOUGHT!!! I love that one of them was branded "rebel" on her documents.
 
I haven't taken it all in yet (I've jut got up and am on my way to work) but am going to sit down and absorb it all this afternoon. My (half) brother Shane will be really excited when I tell him and also my nephew Shane Jnr who is a University Lecturer (he is Treaty Indian and only 25 years old and the first Indian to serve on the Provincial Education Board - he will be inspired by our ancestors I know).
 
I certainly do owe you and will make sure you are aptly rewarded (maybe by becoming an honorary member of a tribal band!!!!)
 
Thanks a million Dave - far and beyond the call of duty.
 
cheers,
Martin"
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ROONEY (Co Down, Co Antrim) 
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ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness)

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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 03 November 10 23:49 GMT (UK) »
  ;D  our pleasure to do it...Love a good dig with results...
A brief story with segment re: his involvement as a metis spy for both parties...by a descendant  but a mistake in saying his (Jerome Henry's)  father was Vermette, as it should say father-in-law....who died of his wounds
http://www.trailsof1885.com/files/spspecialsection.pdf
http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/Exhibitions/Batoche/docs/proof_en_those_who_died.pdf

re: that linkUgh I hate the "On returning to society"bit after leaving his aboriginal country wife

Here is more on Alexander Henry
http://www.biographi.ca/009004-119.01-e.php?BioId=37033

If there are questions re: Quebec/ New France / Drouin files many on here can perhaps answer them. J.J.
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« Reply #24 on: Thursday 04 November 10 00:07 GMT (UK) »
I'll look at these in more detail tomorrow. (Just about midnight here and need to get some shut eye).
Final link you've given looks really interesting (not that the others don't).

The newspaper article is great too.  I love stuff like that.  It adds so much body to the background - otherwise we are just compiling a list of names.

Where did you find that J J?  Free online or part of a pay per view site?

I'm so interested in where you and Jeffster are getting this sort of info - you, the newspaper / Jeffster, the obit.

Dave

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ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness)

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« Reply #25 on: Thursday 04 November 10 17:37 GMT (UK) »
Keywording when searching...that's it for my trick of the day... ;D
For example...  Alexander Henry the elder 1735 ... finds
http://esask.uregina.ca/entry/henry_the_elder_alexander_1739-_1824.html
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~qcmtl-w/HenryAlexander.html
This journal, from which I should be able to get a print out ( in the future if friend wants it, no mention bodily fluids, pls)
Lots of metis sites...
A short account of his capture and later acceptance by the natives http://www.peterfidler.com/OJIBWE-BEGINNINGS.php
http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/bibliography/61.html
http://www.telusplanet.net/dgarneau/metis18a.htm
http://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/pageant/16/firstmine.shtml
http://books.google.ca/books?id=L8bIC7y0LGoC&pg=PA286&lpg=PA286#v=onepage&q&f=false
and more...
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« Reply #26 on: Thursday 04 November 10 17:56 GMT (UK) »
For the newspaper article I probably used  Jerome Henry batoche
which gives results below... I likely chose that link above all, ( altho below all on page) as it was from the Star Phoenix...a publication that I really liked back when I was young. It always had such interesting stories.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0aa8/  Note that your rootschat query is now the number one result...

I'm sure Jeff has a more interesting resource than my online searches   ;D
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