Author Topic: Halpins of Wicklow - Part 3  (Read 116903 times)

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 14 September 10 22:36 BST (UK) »
On 22nd August 1851, John Warman, Master of the steam packet "Undine", which had arrived at Dover from Calais, made out a statutory declaration of Aliens aboard his vessel.  One of these was:

Name:  Halpin.  Quality/Profession:  Gent.   Country/Pays:  France

So this man named Halpin was noted as an alien giving his domicile as France.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #19 on: Friday 24 September 10 17:26 BST (UK) »
     There were a few requests for this document, it being the source for the Halpin entry in Burke's.  I don't have a large enough scanner, so I can't post all of the relevant material.  But you already have it in other sources.  The important things to note are the first two names at the top of the family tree.  I glanced at the document about a year and a half ago, and for the life of me I don't know why I thought the top two names were "William" - I won't rely on memory again.  Clearly, it isn't as accurate as I thought it was.  Instead of "William", we have "Nicholas William", whom we didn't know about.  And beneath him we have another Nocholas, whom we certainly did know about.  What's interesting, and what I failed to pay attention to the first time I looked at the document, is the news that Nicholas was an OFFICER in the Royal Navy, before settling in Portarlington to teach, a profession "Old Nic", his son, was to follow him into.  Now I imagine there must be documents attesting to Nicholas' service in the RN, which may contain valuable info on who he was and what he actually did.  I'd like to think he was involved in the American War of Independence.  A fruitful line of inquiry, perhaps.
     Finally - the marriage between W H Halpin and Marianne Crosthwaite is recorded as taking place on Jan. 1787 in "St. Thomas" - St. Thomas must be a church or a parish.  I'll try to find out and get back to you - if there's a church registry, it too may contain valuable information.


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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #20 on: Friday 24 September 10 22:59 BST (UK) »
Dear Ray,  Great to see this document.  Agree that the two oldest Halpins must appear in naval records or the earliest Naval Lists (Steels Naval List, I seem to remember started in the 18th Century).  All best Brian

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 25 September 10 14:32 BST (UK) »

     Thanks Brian - still smarting from the error, though.  You might have noticed another previously unheard of name - Frank Halpin, Banker in New York.  That too is something of a revelation - it's a shame we don't attract many American viewers to the site.  They could really help us out on this occasion.                 
     Incidentally - I stumbled across a wonderful exchange between Abraham Lincoln and Charles G. Halpin.  We find them in the White House together during the civil war, and Halpin is expressing his shock over the lack of security surrounding the President.  'Any lunatic could stroll in off the street and assassinate you.'  Lincoln replied that he was a democratically elected president - armed guards would make him look like an Emperor, and that wouldn't do.  It's great stuff, and I'll post it when I type it up.  Cheers.


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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 26 September 10 23:16 BST (UK) »
Great document Ray!

I think Frank Halpin was Louisa Halpin's son.  He changed his name from Frank Deck to Frank Halpin , notice of name change in the paper.  Louisa's husband was an alleged bigamist and she divorced him. On the 1860 census she is living with the Brinkerhoff family in Sing Sing as a governess.Her son Frank is living in Brooklyn with his grandmother ? A. Halpin (62)  born in Ireland and his Aunt Lucy. In 1870 Louisa, Lucy and Frank are all living together.

Marianne and her husband had two daughters Ann A Russell and Emily Grace Russell.

Leah will be interested in this.  On the 1870 census for Lewiston, Virginia are John Wright and Anna Wright  then on the next page are Claude Halpin and Charles Halpin living with the Staples family who are black, so I don't think they are family.  I am guessing it must have been around when their mother died and I guess they were sent from Canada to be with their Aunt Anna.  I'm not sure why they aren't living in the same house with her.  Next year on the 1871 Canadian census they are back home in Canada with their father William Henry. Interesting.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #23 on: Monday 27 September 10 20:22 BST (UK) »

Absolutely fascinating, Diane.  I need to think about what you've said.  In the meantime, have a look at this (it's in the public domain):

1.      While the President's family were at their summer-house, near Washington, he rode into town of a morning, or out at night, attended by a mounted escort; but if he returned to town for a while after dark, he rode in unguarded, and often alone, in his open carriage.  On more than one occasion the writer has gone through the streets of Washington at a late hour of the night with the President, without escort, or even the company of a servant, walking all of the way, going and returning.
     Considering the many open and secret threats to take his life, it is not surprising that Mr. Lincoln had many thoughts about his coming to a sudden and violent end.  He once said that he felt the force of the expression "To take one's life in his hand" - but that he would not like to face death suddenly.  He said that he thought himself a great coward physically, and was sure that he would make a poor soldier, for, unless there was something inspiriting in the excitement of a battle, he was sure that he would drop his gun and run, at the first symptom of danger.  That was said sportively, and he added, "Moral cowardice is something which I think I never had."
     Colonel Halpine, while serving as a member of General Halleck's staff, had frequently to wait upon the President, both during official hours and at other times.  On one of these occasions, Mr. Lincoln concluded some interesting remarks with these words: "It would never do for a President to have guards with drawn sabres at his door, as if he fancied he were, or were trying to be, or were assuming to be, an emperor."
     This expression, writes Colonel Halpine, called my attention afresh to what I had remarked to myself almost every time I entered the White House, and to which I had very frequently called the attention both of Major Hay and General Halleck - the utterly unprotected condition of the President's person, and the fact that any assassin or maniac, seeking his life, could enter his presence without the interference of a single armed man to hold him back.  The entrance-doors, and all doors on the official side of the building, were open at all hours of the day, and very late into the evening; and I have many times entered the mansion, and walked up to the rooms of the two private secretaries, as late as nine or ten o'clock at night, without seeing or being challenged by a single soul.  There were, indeed, two attendants - one for the outer door and the other for the door of the official champers; but these - thinking, I suppose, that none would call after office hours save persons were personally acquainted, or had the right of official entry - were, not unfrequently, somewhat remiss in their duties.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #24 on: Monday 27 September 10 20:23 BST (UK) »


2.  To this fact I now ventured to call the President's attention, saying that to me - perhaps from my European education - it appeared a deliberate courting of danger, even if the country were in a state of the profoundest peace, for the person at the head of the nation to remain so unprotected.
     There are two dangers, I wound up by saying; the danger of deliberate political assassination, and the mere brute violence of insanity.
     Mr. Lincoln heard me through with a smile, his hands locked across his knees, his body rocking back and forth - the common indication that he was amused.
     Now, as to political assassination, he said, do you think the Richmond people would like to have Hannible Hamlin here any better than myself?  In that one alternative, I have an insurance on my life worth half the prarie land of Illinois.  And beside - this more gravely - if there were such a plot, and they wanted to get at me, no vigilance could keep them out.  We are so mixed up in our affairs, that - no matter what the system established - a conspiracy to assassinate, if such there were, could easily obtain a pass to see me for any one or more of its instruments.
     To betray fear of this, by placing guards or so forth, would only be to put the idea into their heads, and perhaps lead to the very result it was intended to prevent.  As to crazy folks, Major Halpin, why I must only take my chances - the worst crazy people at present, I fear, being some of my own too zealous adherents.  That there may be such dangers as you and many others have suggested to me, is quite possible; but I guess it wouldn't improve things any to publish that we were afraid of them in advance.
     Upon another occasion I remember his coming over one evening after dinner, to General Halleck's private quarters, to protest - half jocularly, half in earnest - against a small detachment of cavalry which had been detailed without his request, and partly against his will, by the lamented General Wadsworth, as a guard for his carriage in going to and returning from the Soldiers' Home.  The burden of his complaint was that he and Mrs. Lincoln 'couldn't hear themselves talk,' for the clatter of their sabres and spurs; and that, as many of them appeared new hands and very awkward, he was more afraid of being shot by the accidental discharge of one of their carbines or revolvers, than of any attempt upon his life or for his capture by the roving squads of Jeb Stuart's cavalry, then hovering all round the exterior works of the city.

- from The Inner Life of Abraham Lincoln, by Frances Bicknell Carpenter (1866), pp.63 - 67.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 28 September 10 09:13 BST (UK) »
that is fascinating Ray, Robert Halpin was involved in the American Civil War too, I wonder if the two Halpins knew each other.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 28 September 10 19:35 BST (UK) »

We can have tremendous fun speculating, Marie.